Assembled list of LCD/CRT VGA monitors supporting Atari low/med res

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Re: Assembled list of LCD/CRT VGA monitors supporting Atari low/med res

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Another positive experience with ST2VGA adapter and NEC 1990FX LCD monitor, as reported by M. Keenleyside through a Facebook message, after a purchse of ST2VGA from me.
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A very cheap DENVER TFD-1506 15" LCD TV/DVD player combo does 15 kHz over VGA nicely too, using ST2VGA adapter. ST High is unfortunatelly aligned to top LCD border and I still have not found the way to change from 16:9 to 4:3 aspect ratio.
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I can contribute that the NEC MultiSync LCD1970NXP monitor that other colleagues have cataloged as functional for ST resolutions, it does not work for me.
There may be two different versions of this monitor depending on the date of manufacture.
The monitor works perfectly with the TT in all resolutions (including ST mode), but not with ST computers.

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I've got a NEC MultiSync LCD 1990NXp that's working fine in both low and high modes and also with AutoSwitch-Overscan active in high (672x480 with jail bars).

There's a sticker on the back with rev. 1 B.

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Re: Assembled list of LCD/CRT VGA monitors supporting Atari low/med res

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Samsung Multisync 940B - only high resolution. Saw a comment at another wiki that the 940BE worked with 15kHz so gave it a shot.
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I just bought NEC AccuSync LCD91vm and it do not work in 15KHz with Falcon.
I bought it since numerous people praise NEC AccuSync LCD71vm on Amiga but it seems that his bigger brother does not work in 15KHz :(

On other hand, NEC MultiSync LCD1970nx does work, and it have great picture (PVA ili PVM panel!) but on Amiga it will not display bottom 14 lines (or something like that) in certain resolutions.

btw
NEC MultiSync LCD1400M does not in 15KHz...


and we should definitively have wiki for such topic.
Hope that mpattonm will compile all data in first post but it would be easy if everyone could edit and maintain this database...
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I have a Philips LED TV REF 22PFH4000/88 connected to a 4 MEG STE, more info here:
https://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/22PFH4000 ... ifications

And it works very well using the SCART input: Only MED/LOW res are available.
With ST2VGA using VGA input: HIGH/MED/LOW res are available.

It has to be said regarding HIGHRES that the image is not centered and is shifted to the upper side of the screen area, and the rendering is done NOT in black and white colors but something like a darker deep green.

Same result with A ProLite E2483HS-B1 LED MONITOR from iiyama (in Monochrome of course, i did not test the others resolutions because at that time i had no ST2VGA Adapter).

Hope this HELPS.
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List updated, thank you.
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I think that we should have list with monitors that do not work!

From my example: I bought Nec LCD91V since I know that Nec LCD71V work so my assumption was that LCD91V should work.
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The now-dead wiki had a list where we noted both working and non-working ones, yes ...
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there is toons of sites with this kind of infos:

http://retropedia.ribit.se/wiki/Plattskärmar

this is good one!
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I have NEC Multisync EA192M. It displays both color and monochrom.
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mpattonm wrote:.... I still have not found the way to change from 16:9 to 4:3 aspect ratio.
This is good note to add to the list.
Dose the monitor support 4:3 when displaying an Atari signal, and in what resolutions...
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I use a new monitor, currently available, the ViewSonic VG2455, with my ST2VGA, on my Mega ST4. I also tried 520STFM.

Screenshots:
Medium rez full screen (16:9)
medium.jpg
Low rez (4:3)
low.jpg
High rez
IMG_3709.jpg
Why the bars on high rez?


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Hi

If not already mentioned NEC EA192M works flawlessly with Atari ST/TT (not tested with ECL2VGA yet)
Also works with Amiga and Macintosh LC / Quadra
You can find it refurbished on EB from German seller for a very fair price

Just found that it was already mentioned
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Post by Mikerochip »

I also have an NEC EA241WM

24" widescreen 16:10 monitor, dvi + vga.

RGB over the VGA works fine. Amiga, Atari ST, low, medium, high.

But, it's only got two scaling modes, original 1:1 where it's tiny in the middle of the screen, or stretch.
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I wonder if it would be a good idea to include whether interlace works or not on these lists?

I have an NEC multisync 1990Fxp that doesnt handle interlace at all (screen is a garbled mess that fades to black after a few seconds).

All 'regular' ST/Amiga modes are handled ok.
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Okay. at 15khz Wiki page. I read Benq GW2480 was working -full.

Now.. I bought one for this case. and yeah High-Res works perfect.. but Low/med dont work at all. Then I saw its Model 2480-B he has. this one I got was -T model.. crap!
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Marcer wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:39 pm Okay. at 15khz Wiki page. I read Benq GW2480 was working -full.

Now.. I bought one for this case. and yeah High-Res works perfect.. but Low/med dont work at all. Then I saw its Model 2480-B he has. this one I got was -T model.. crap!
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dhedberg wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:48 pm
Marcer wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:39 pm Okay. at 15khz Wiki page. I read Benq GW2480 was working -full.

Now.. I bought one for this case. and yeah High-Res works perfect.. but Low/med dont work at all. Then I saw its Model 2480-B he has. this one I got was -T model.. crap!
Oh, that sucks! You should be able to return it as you bought it online in Sweden. You have a 2 week window to try out whatever you buy online, and the seller cannot take that right away as long as the condition of the monitor is "as new".
I used that monitor box to send u the ST. Oops lol

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Perdrix24 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:10 pm I use a new monitor, currently available, the ViewSonic VG2455, with my ST2VGA, on my Mega ST4. I also tried 520STFM.

Screenshots:
Medium rez full screen (16:9)
medium.jpg
Low rez (4:3)
low.jpg
High rez
IMG_3709.jpg
Why the bars on high rez?


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About the high rez one..
Had similar on my old lcd-TV VGA input,felt sort of strange since the 'TV' in itself can convert most stuff.
Seems to be the input sampling level on mine ,pulled up the input voltage a bit and all of a sudden the thing nicely synced into a good pixely mono pattern as should be.
Most likely the internal signal handling that has some treshold level to pop over for not thinking its a 'greymix' of sorts?
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neanderthal wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:57 pm Seems to be the input sampling level on mine ,pulled up the input voltage a bit and all of a sudden the thing nicely synced into a good pixely mono pattern as should be.
Most likely the internal signal handling that has some treshold level to pop over for not thinking its a 'greymix' of sorts?
Could you elaborate some more on the above statement?
Where did you pull up the input voltage, and how?

I think lots of people with grey bars would like to know.
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neanderthal wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:57 pm
Perdrix24 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:10 pm I use a new monitor, currently available, the ViewSonic VG2455, with my ST2VGA, on my Mega ST4. I also tried 520STFM.

Why the bars on high rez?


Claude
About the high rez one..
Had similar on my old lcd-TV VGA input,felt sort of strange since the 'TV' in itself can convert most stuff.
Seems to be the input sampling level on mine ,pulled up the input voltage a bit and all of a sudden the thing nicely synced into a good pixely mono pattern as should be.
Most likely the internal signal handling that has some treshold level to pop over for not thinking its a 'greymix' of sorts?
Could it be that I need a new power supply on the Mega ST?
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Perdrix24 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:10 pm Why the bars on high rez?
There's nothing wrong with your ST. My screen looks the same in high-res, until I adjust the monitor settings. You could try an auto-adjustment or look for a setting called "clock" or "pitch": http://www.techmind.org/lcd/phasexplan.html
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