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St-Paint new version 26-03-2013 Full Version

Postby FedePede04 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:01 am

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Hi All
26.03.2013
this will probably be the last update, on less I find some critical errors.
This version is the full version of the program, all 15 screens is open,
and the program can hold the last 100 clips

add Open Picture with Drag/Drop
minor bug fix

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27.01.2013

so its time for a new beta of my Drawing program for windows. since there have happened a lot to the program, since the last version

new functions:
normal full screen is finish
add a second full screen mode, an oldstyle edit mode.
full screen view.
quick save
Quick Load
recent file list (remember the last 10 files loaded / saved)
change the plane view window
On Screen Display
save default startup palette for low/mid res.
Load/Save most Degas over/under scan picture.
Load/Save Neo over/under scan picture. (Neochrome file header had reserved space for width and height, i don't know if they was ever used, but they are now)

some error fixing.

Note.
old info look at the top (in this beta only the first 3 screen is open, and the clipboard can only hold 15 clip.)

none of the screenshot there made in the program, it is only for showing, how the program looks.
both Pandafox and Modmate are beta tester of the program.

roadgfx.JPG


ST-Paint normal Full screen mode.JPG


st-paint Degas elite mode.JPG


Osd.JPG


full screen viewmode.JPG


ST Paint BETA version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ254Q90 ... ure=relmfu

ST-Paint Palette Function.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4XdEtf2T2Y

A little info about the program.
in some array it's very similar to Degas, Picture 1 picture one determines, the resolutions, and palette,
so if you load a new picture into picture 2, it will have the palette from picture 1,
it ask you if you want to load picture 2 palette to a new palette position.

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Re: St-Paint

Postby StickHead » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:18 pm

Congratulations on the official release! :cheers:

Thanks for implementing the multiple workscreens, that's the feature I was hankering for. Great work, chap!
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Re: St-Paint

Postby FedePede04 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:36 am

StickHead wrote:Congratulations on the official release! :cheers:

Thanks for implementing the multiple workscreens, that's the feature I was hankering for. Great work, chap!


Thanks Marc,
Now it will be interesting to see if someone can use it
btw i also add export to (bmp,png,jpg,gif) in it, if you need picture to your blog :D

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Re: St-Paint

Postby TwiliteZoner » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:19 pm

Very nice. Thanks.

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Re: St-Paint

Postby FedePede04 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:54 am

TwiliteZoner wrote:Very nice. Thanks.


Hi
Thanks TwiliteZoner :D
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Re: St-Paint

Postby wongck » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:48 am

nice one. Thanks. :cheers:
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Re: St-Paint

Postby FedePede04 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:29 pm

Thanks wongck
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Re: St-Paint

Postby FedePede04 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:05 pm

Hi.

i have just upload two extra fonts, the file is in the first post.
just copy the files into the font directory.
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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby FedePede04 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:09 pm

Hi All.
I had hope to uploaded a new version before Christmas, but it could not achieve that, due to back pain(can only sit in front of a computer for a short time).
and i had also hope to complete more of the function.
But i have decided to upload a newer version any way, since lot had happened to the program compared to the last version.

new thing in the program.

windows mode (not complete)
Clipboard : Remember the last 15 clip
Color Replacer : Use to replace a color somewhere in the graphic
Poly Line :
Load/save Neochrome picture.
Load Degas Under/Overscan Picture*

and some of the functions have been change.
like the undo buffer in the polygon function, (now while drawing a polyg, and undo you will remove the last point, when finish the polyg and undo, you will remove the hole polygon.

the program is in the first post.
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=23971

if you try or use the program, and you have time then some feedback would be nice.

*Under/Overscan Picture function.
Under/Overscan Picture function is made with help from Ben Jos Walbeehm the author of "Atari ST Plus Picture Viewer" probable the best Atari viewer for the PC.
due to my back problems, i have not got it to work 100%, but it load most of them, but the under/overscan routine can be turn off.
viewtopic.php?t=23952


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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby bjw66 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:26 am

Great job, Peter. I hope your back gets better soon. And I'd gladly give you more help on the overscanned/underscanned images if you need a shortcut to making all of them work. By now, I have compiled a set of around 150 images in many combinations of overscanned/underscanned and the algorithm (explained here) that I use in my viewer detects the correct widths/heights for all of them.

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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby FedePede04 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:57 am

bjw66 wrote:Great job, Peter. I hope your back gets better soon. And I'd gladly give you more help on the overscanned/underscanned images if you need a shortcut to making all of them work. By now, I have compiled a set of around 150 images in many combinations of overscanned/underscanned and the algorithm (explained here) that I use in my viewer detects the correct widths/heights for all of them.



Thanks Again for the help Ben Jos and thanks for asking, to day my back was a little better, but yesterday it was crazy, i could not get out of bed a nasty feeling :(

I ended up using your explanation that you link to.
i think that i have it like you, that I like to make my own code instead of using others.
So i never use the source code you send me, but again your explanation was a really great help :)

I had some problem to get it to work, due to some pointer problems in Delphi(Pascal) so i ended up writing some of the code i asm.
and it was hard to find the error, every time I sat down to find the problem, my back began to make trouble, and I had to stop.
when my back is improves, I will have a look, to see if i can find the last problem, the two picture that i have problems with is normal resolutions, but there are a lot of different pixel, no pattern.

Talk to you later,
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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby bjw66 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:01 am

I am glad to hear you are feeling better.

As for the 2 pictures you have problems with that use "normal resolution", that is easy, even without giving you any source code. I have written my viewer in such a way that it first deals with standard resolutions and detections for ALL image formats it supports, and ONLY if that fails, it tries to use overscanned/underscanned... . So I will just give a hint now: DEGAS Elite format uses 32,066 bytes. Which is 32 bytes more than 32,034 for standard DEGAS. I bet those 32 bytes throw your code off...

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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby FedePede04 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:02 am

bjw66 wrote:I am glad to hear you are feeling better.

As for the 2 pictures you have problems with that use "normal resolution", that is easy, even without giving you any source code. I have written my viewer in such a way that it first deals with standard resolutions and detections for ALL image formats it supports, and ONLY if that fails, it tries to use overscanned/underscanned... . So I will just give a hint now: DEGAS Elite format uses 32,066 bytes. Which is 32 bytes more than 32,034 for standard DEGAS. I bet those 32 bytes throw your code off...


hi thanks for the hint.
but i already taking into account if the picture are a Degas Elite picture, and if it is, then I don't test for over/under scan.

the picture that i have the problem with, is picture that contain very little pattern.
like these here.
Bad picture.rar


but right now it does not matter so much, there are a couple of things that are more impotent, like save overscan picture and save/load clip-board data.

but it will first be in the new year :D, then my back gets better.
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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby bjw66 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:41 pm

FedePede04 wrote:hi thanks for the hint.
but i already taking into account if the picture are a Degas Elite picture, and if it is, then I don't test for over/under scan.

the picture that i have the problem with, is picture that contain very little pattern.
like these here.


OK. The first one does not display correctly in my viewer either. The second one is just fine:

UCM_03B_010.png


The first one could just be garbage, but I see distinct patterns there... 4 "lines" of 5 repeating images. I will have to look into this a little bit more. Maybe I will have to change my algorithm to not just take horizontal lines into account, but also vertical ones. Should be easy to find out by quickly trying all possible widths, assuming the image is not corrupt. I'll let you know.

FedePede04 wrote:but right now it does not matter so much, there are a couple of things that are more impotent.


Your sig says "my English is a little weird", so I know you meant "important", not "impotent". ;)
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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby bjw66 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:52 pm

Oh... those are 2 of the pictures I sent you... . I think BUMPSTIS.PI1 is supposed to look that way:

BUMPSTIS is a Degas .PI1 color picture of a STIS picture created (by A.
Petrie?) using Phillip O'Neal's program STIS (for the Stereoscopic Image
System). I just recently found out how to see these amazing pictures.
Some people find that focussing on the two two dots at the top of the
picture and then shifing your focus so as to merge those two dots into a
third dot in the center will allow you to see a 3D image made up of the
abstract pattern. That never worked with me. The only way for me to
see these STIS pictures is to stick my nose right on the screen and
just wander off into a daydream for a minute. Then I back off just
about 2 inches and daydream some more. All of a sudden the picture
zooms into view. From that point I can back off to a more comfortable
distance and examine the picture. STIS pictures are beginning to show
up everywhere--in Sunday newspapers, books, art stores, and more. I
recommend STIS itself to you as a program to create these images all by
yourself! Phillip O'Neil is in the final stages of finishing STIS 2. I
have a copy, but no docs yet. It's a lot different from STIS 1, so I
recommend you get them both when you can. Oh, this is a picture of a
parted set of lips!

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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby FedePede04 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:58 pm

bjw66 wrote:
FedePede04 wrote:hi thanks for the hint.
but i already taking into account if the picture are a Degas Elite picture, and if it is, then I don't test for over/under scan.

the picture that i have the problem with, is picture that contain very little pattern.
like these here.


OK. The first one does not display correctly in my viewer either. The second one is just fine:

UCM_03B_010.png


The first one could just be garbage, but I see distinct patterns there... 4 "lines" of 5 repeating images. I will have to look into this a little bit more. Maybe I will have to change my algorithm to not just take horizonal lines into account, but also vertical ones. Should be easy to find out by quickly trying all possible widths, assuming the image is not corrupt. I'll let you know.

FedePede04 wrote:but right now it does not matter so much, there are a couple of things that are more impotent.


Your sig says "my English is a little weird", so I know you meant "important", not "impotent". ;)


Like i say, google translate make the day :D

i have not seen the first picture before, but to my eyes it look right in your viewer, if you look in the top-mid of the picture, there are two holes and also you have a border around the whole picture.

i just think that i maybe i will let you change the picture width, so if the program detect it wrong, you can change in manually.
then i am sure that you alway continue on your work.

thanks again for taking your time
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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby dml » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:20 am

ST-Paint.... very nice work. Look forward to seeing more and more :)

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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby mOdmate » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:40 pm

Rulez!

And if you could add a fullscreen mode (no Windows, only the pixelscreen), it could become a full replacement for Crackart/Degas/Grafx2 or whatever.

Keep up the good work!

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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby FedePede04 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:20 pm

dml wrote:ST-Paint.... very nice work. Look forward to seeing more and more :)


thanks dml, I appreciate
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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby FedePede04 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:31 pm

mOdmate wrote:Rulez!

And if you could add a fullscreen mode (no Windows, only the pixelscreen), it could become a full replacement for Crackart/Degas/Grafx2 or whatever.

Keep up the good work!


Thanks mOdmate.
if it was not because of my back, it would probably have view in fullscreen now, but maybe i could also add edit in full screen(doesn't know if it is possible due to how i have made my code), but i will have a look.
but what do you have in mind, (like in degas elite) so you don't have the drawing tool windows or any other windows.
or fullscreen with the tools windows, or something else.
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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby mOdmate » Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:05 pm

For the fullscreen edit, I would prefer a zoom view on the right, a normal view on the left, the palette on the top of the screen, a set pixel/delete pixel function and a fill function (with control+mousekey) and the mousewheel for changing painting color to be happy (almost as in Crackart).IMHO nothing more is needed for pixelpainting. But a fullscreen mode (like in Photoshop) really is essential.

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Re: St-Paint new version 27-12-2012

Postby FedePede04 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:09 pm

mOdmate wrote:For the fullscreen edit, I would prefer a zoom view on the right, a normal view on the left, the palette on the top of the screen, a set pixel/delete pixel function and a fill function (with control+mousekey) and the mousewheel for changing painting color to be happy (almost as in Crackart).IMHO nothing more is needed for pixelpainting. But a fullscreen mode (like in Photoshop) really is essential.


Hi mOdmate.
A funny thing is, I made the program, because last year, I need some graphic for a program, that I was making, I try some different drawing programs among other, two for windows, but in the end, i ended up using Degas Elite, but I have forgot how bad it's is. I thought it could be done better, that was the reason i started on the program.

in the old days, I only try Degas, Neo and deluxe paint for the ST, and amongst those 3 program, I use Degas, and I think it's a least +10 years since i use Photo shop so i don't recall any thing from that program.
so you can say, that i made this program in blind, and last time, that i try making a drawing program for a computer, was in GFA basic, long time ago.

To make a long story short, I don't know anything about crack art, and i don't remember that Photoshop have a full screen mode :D
so i am pretty much a noob at drawing and using drawing programs. :lol:

I have some ideas for the full screen mode, i am not sure that i can make them as you like,

I have thought to make the left toolbar invisible and if you press a certain key it will be visible, so you can select color and tools, I will still keep my "plane view" window but maybe make it double size, and have the active foreground color over the window.
"ctrl+mouse button" for fill sound like a good idea.
Mouse wheel for color scroll, you can already have that.
go to tools menu, mouse wheel.

i am nearly 100% sure that the program can have a full screen mode.
but it will probably take a little time due to my back pain.

Many thanks for the input, I appreciate it very much, it is what makes the program better :D
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Re: St-Paint new version 31-12-2012

Postby FedePede04 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:56 pm

yesterday my back was ok, so i got to code a little.
so here is the first version with full screen, i have also when in full screen you now have flood fill on Ctrl+mouse, and i have add more shortcut,

look in St-Paint.txt for more info

A good New Year to all
Peter
Ps. ups i forgot, to write in the St-Paint.txt file
"Alt In Full Screen Activat The Toolbar"
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Re: St-Paint new version 31-12-2012

Postby Scarlettkitten » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:32 pm

Thanks for making this paint program, I use it alot when my gf is hogging the STe. :D
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Re: St-Paint new version 31-12-2012

Postby FedePede04 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:38 pm

Scarlettkitten wrote:Thanks for making this paint program, I use it alot when my gf is hogging the STe. :D


You are Welcome, i am glad that other can use it.
if you think it need a function, please let me know, and i will see, if I can include it, to the program :D

/Peter
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