Dbug wrote:"As I said to you in other thread, as an individual you have very few rights on the Internet, and taking down your freeware apps certainly isn't one of them."
Maybe not, but a minimum of consideration and understanding would not hurt, would it?
But if they refuse, all I can imagine is posting a message like "guys, watch out, those individuals are very hard to reason with, avoid them!" and not anger on the whole atari community, based on some virtual "rights".
mikro wrote:When somebody googles your name now he sees your website as the first result (demozoo is 3rd in my search engine), if you take your whole website down, people will see only the obsolete apps from demozoo, the ones you are so much complaining about.
mikro wrote:based on some virtual "rights".
Authors of demoozo was pissoff by admins of pouet so they create their own site to be “better” then pouet and at the end they are same!
World Of Spectrum (WOS) has a nice way to deal with this: it lists the details of the game or demo or whatever and then in red it says in a rather stern tone "Distribution Denied". This is for copyright reasons e.g. Code Masters and Ultimate games spring to mind. I think Pouet and Demozoo should have that.
Having people put your software on a site, without your authorization, and balking at removing it is just bad manners and lacking of consideration in regard of the work done (for free) by the authors.
\It's a bit like when I find my Oric software in "Retro Collections" archives, stripped from all the nfo files and other information that could be useful for people to find where they came from. That's probably not illegal, I can't do anything against it, that's still a dick move.
Just to be clear: I'm not defending manners of people from Demozoo / pouet. Sure, it would be polite to fulfil the author's wishes and/or find some nice compromise (i.e. let him update all software links to latest versions).
Rights is one thing, showing some respect is a completely different matter and I fully understand Rajah's anger towards demozoo and pouet in this case.
Now there's one coder less in our small community.
I'm also not really sure whether you really have the right to demand from those people to delete the entry. Once you have released it as freeware, you essentially gave them the right to publish it on their site, whether demo or not.
And of course its up to them to check for updates or not. You can kindly ask them or give them a hint, but you can't "force" them to update or delete the entry.
Nevertheless, their (non-)reaction is of course showing totally disrespect.
People can't force us to delete links to freeware software indeed.
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