USB Hub board

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby NegSol » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:40 am

Excellent - big thank you! :cheers:

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby zerohimself » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:38 pm

ok, so where are we at with these usb connectors? which one's actually work and are reasonably priced?
can we please get a list here along with some known vendors and which versions of the bridge that they go with?

Please and thank you.

EDIT: upon more googling i started to piece this together:

GTC 3510 connector: (mfg part# USB3150-30-130-A )

Make sure you use 0.4mm thick PCB's for this connector!

Newark: https://www.newark.com/gct-global-connector-technology/usb3150-30-130-a/micro-usb-2-0-type-b-plug-th/dp/49Y1723?CMP=AFC-OP $1.04 ea??
Digikey: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/gct/USB3150-30-130-A/2073-USB3150-30-130-ACT-ND/9859720?utm_adgroup=Connectors%20&%20Interconnects $1.03 ea

Thase's No Name connector

NOTE: I do believe that these are compatible with the bridge board!!!!! -- buy and try at your own risk!!

Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-100pcs-lot-Micro-USB-B-type-Male-jack-connector-7pin-135DIP-with-ground-line/2032454420.html?spm=a2g0x.10010108.1000001.12.6b041bf4Zf5Xj7

Sorgelig's No Name connector
Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/High-Quality-Micro-Usb-5-Pin_60705552724.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.57.55a86e53WAYxBF

L bracket USB adapters
Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-100-packs-90-Degree-Micro-USB-Connector-5-Pin-Flat-Micro-USB-Connectors-Adapter-for/32908638389.html

I'll update this list with notes about the connector once I understand more..
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Re: USB Hub board

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby lolof » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:45 pm

Using L-shaped USB connector on usb board 1.2 :

- Is there an advantage to solder the USB-mini connector on the USB 1.2 board ?
- On your picture, I can see you power the board through a pin connected on J2. It must be so ? Could I use instead P2 (2) to power the USB board ?

Thank you very much for your reply.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby Sorgelig » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:53 pm

lolof wrote:- Is there an advantage to solder the USB-mini connector on the USB 1.2 board ?

Do you mean micro-USB? No, it's not required.

lolof wrote:- On your picture, I can see you power the board through a pin connected on J2. It must be so ? Could I use instead P2 (2) to power the USB board ?

Yes, you can power through P2 pin 1. Pin 2 is connected to micro USB. If you connect Pins 1-2 then you can power USB Hub from micro-USB connector (if power is enough there)

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby lolof » Wed May 01, 2019 11:35 am

Sorry yes, micro-USB and I was also speaking about the J1 pin you solder on your board for the power....

Thanks for the reply. I will experiment with power from the L-shape connector on my usb hub and see if it's enough.

The boards I won't use will be for sale. What is for you the best option to power the USB Hub when selling those boards to people who want an "easy ready to use" solution ?

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby damopinn » Wed May 08, 2019 2:37 pm

Hi, What is the recommended way to connect the usb hub, The bracket or the bridge connector. What are the pros and cons of each method. Thanks

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby Sorgelig » Wed May 08, 2019 3:35 pm

damopinn wrote:Hi, What is the recommended way to connect the usb hub, The bracket or the bridge connector. What are the pros and cons of each method. Thanks

no difference from working point of view. It's up to you what you prefer.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby damopinn » Sun May 12, 2019 6:29 am

I have been thinking, could it be possible to put a switch on the usb board and power the de10 from the hub and just have one power connector connected.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby lolof » Sun May 12, 2019 11:12 am

I put a 0 Ohm resistor on the L-shap bridge to get the USB board powered by the nano. This works well for me.

I did tried to power the nanode10 only through the USB Hub (while 0 ohm resistor in place). This does not work.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby damopinn » Sun May 12, 2019 12:49 pm

lolof wrote:I put a 0 Ohm resistor on the L-shap bridge to get the USB board powered by the nano. This works well for me.

I did tried to power the nanode10 only through the USB Hub (while 0 ohm resistor in place). This does not work.


Did you power through a dc jack on usb board or the usb port? My idea to is slightly change the usb hub to include a power switch and power the de10 nano through a dc jack on the hub. I don't think a usb micro connection can power the hub and de10 as most i see are only rated to 1A.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby warham » Wed May 15, 2019 7:23 am

lolof wrote:I put a 0 Ohm resistor on the L-shap bridge to get the USB board powered by the nano. This works well for me.

I did tried to power the nanode10 only through the USB Hub (while 0 ohm resistor in place). This does not work.



is this your fancy way of saying a paper clip?
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Re: USB Hub board

Postby damopinn » Wed May 15, 2019 12:02 pm

Have you heard of google? :D
https://www.google.com/search?client=ub ... 8&oe=utf-8
You can use any wire or a blob of solder too.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby Newsdee » Fri May 17, 2019 5:31 am

Does this wiring give full power to the USB hub?

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby damopinn » Fri May 17, 2019 7:15 pm

zerohimself wrote:Thase's No Name connector

NOTE: I do believe that these are compatible with the bridge board!!!!! -- buy and try at your own risk!!

Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-100pcs-lot-Micro-USB-B-type-Male-jack-connector-7pin-135DIP-with-ground-line/2032454420.html?spm=a2g0x.10010108.1000001.12.6b041bf4Zf5Xj7

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Does anyone have news about these connectors yet?

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby THaase » Fri May 17, 2019 7:55 pm

They will not fit with Sorgeligs design - just with mine ....

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby damopinn » Sat May 18, 2019 7:29 am

Hi Thase, Did you share your compatible design?

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby THaase » Sat May 18, 2019 9:13 pm

It's compatible to my own designed HUB - not to Sorgelig's one!

My HUB on github
Description & Photos

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby damopinn » Mon May 20, 2019 2:40 pm

Hi, I just ordered the usb hub from jlcpcb, I was quite pleasantly suprised it was only €8 for the board and €4.5 for the bridge connector x 10. €21.55 with (slow) delivery.
I'll probably have a usb hub connected to everything when they arrive. I just wanted to share as I think lots of people think the pcbs are super expensive.
And thanks to everyone who gave me advice that motivated me to make the hub.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby THaase » Mon May 20, 2019 3:36 pm

Use Drag solder for the FE.
Hotair don’t work well with 0.5 Pitch.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby damopinn » Tue May 21, 2019 11:54 am

I'll do like in this video it's the same pitch and the solder quality looks fine to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUryJOAiPa4

I used that method for the memory chips and they are all ok at 166

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby tempus007 » Thu May 30, 2019 8:37 am

Hello everyone,

I am a new user of MISTer :D

I have a question about the USB Hub daughter board 1.2 with power splitter and bracket PCB.

It is asked on the WIKI du MISTer to cut a small breakpoint on the USB Hub.

Should we do this on the USB Hub 1.2 version too?

I would not want to make a short circuit.

Thank you,
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Re: USB Hub board

Postby damopinn » Thu May 30, 2019 5:35 pm

You don't need to cut anything on v1.2, if you wanted to power from usb you would install a jumper across the P2 connector.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby tempus007 » Thu May 30, 2019 6:15 pm

So nothing to do :D , thanks for the quick answer.

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Re: USB Hub board

Postby Teps71 » Fri May 31, 2019 1:58 am

I was able to use this connector, however the drawing specs an 8mm thick PCB for the 130 connector and 4mm for the 075 connector. I ordered boards from PCBWay 8mm thick and these work very nicely.

zerohimself wrote:ok, so where are we at with these usb connectors? which one's actually work and are reasonably priced?
can we please get a list here along with some known vendors and which versions of the bridge that they go with?

Please and thank you.

EDIT: upon more googling i started to piece this together:

GTC 3510 connector: (mfg part# USB3150-30-130-A )

Make sure you use 0.4mm thick PCB's for this connector!

Newark: https://www.newark.com/gct-global-connector-technology/usb3150-30-130-a/micro-usb-2-0-type-b-plug-th/dp/49Y1723?CMP=AFC-OP $1.04 ea??
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