Best Falcon 030 demos?

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Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby fidzen » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:58 am

Hi.

I'm looking for the best Falcon 030 demos out there.
So I would really appreciate your help to get a collection of the best
demos for stock Falcon 030.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby Eero Tamminen » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:09 pm

Most liked Falcon demos on puet.net is good starting point:
http://www.pouet.net/prodlist.php?platf ... er=thumbup

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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby fidzen » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:52 pm

Eero Tamminen wrote:Most liked Falcon demos on puet.net is good starting point:
http://www.pouet.net/prodlist.php?platf ... er=thumbup


The only problem is that there is a lot of demos. :-)
If you have any favourite demos that really kick the Amiga scene of the table,
I would like to know what demos to look at?
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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby dhedberg » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:47 pm

fidzen wrote:
Eero Tamminen wrote:Most liked Falcon demos on puet.net is good starting point:
http://www.pouet.net/prodlist.php?platf ... er=thumbup


The only problem is that there is a lot of demos. :-)
If you have any favourite demos that really kick the Amiga scene of the table,
I would like to know what demos to look at?

Well, you'll most likely get different suggestions from others but here's some really great standard Falcon030 demos if you ask me:

Hmmm
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=3192

Sonolumineszenz
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=1177

Underscore
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=15676

EKO System
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=8572

Wait
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2019
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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby christos » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:57 pm

I would like to add Delta and Beams
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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby Sturm » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:21 pm

Some have good GFX and animations, but.... almost every soundtrack suck. Either cheap techno from the 90's or dull dubstep stuff...
Bring back the good old STF melodies or modern STE stuff.
The most important element in a demo for me is the music. I almost don't care about the rest.
So I need stuff like this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdKofWiubOY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrLmYI7iS9Q&t=173s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ6Pbtpsfhs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGpU3DicbLQ

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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby christos » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:46 pm

Then you will love amanita
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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby 1st1 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:45 pm

@Sturm: Yamaha sound is not Falcon specific. Don't talk about Falcon demo and expect Yamaha sound to be something special for Falcon. That's ST stuff, or Amstrad/Schneider-CPC... I would be disappointed to see a special Falcon demo using Yamaha sound only. Yamaha is there only for legacy support, for ckey click... Falcom music is digital audio, DSP realtime sound modification and things like this. A now 25 years old machine which is powerfull enough to play MP3 (up to 128 kBit, accelerated Falcon even more) which's popularity only starts 3-4 years after Falcon 030 release, maybe the oldest affordable computer capable to play MP3 in good quality.

The best demos for Falcon in original configuration already have been listet here. My personal favourite here is Sonolumineszenz, but having an 68060 in Falcon opens again another impressive world...
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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby wietze » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:51 am

Technically, I think http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=66698 is one of, if not THE most advanced stock Falcon demo that's out there.

It not being mentioned here is another indication that its gravely undervalued ;)

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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby Sturm » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:28 am

@1st1 : I'm not talking about YM or digital audio here, but more about the compositions themselves, the catchiness and how long you will remember them.
No memorable tune yet on the Falcon for me, except this one maybe :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6PVMQBBVN0

As for the 68060, the TBL demos are awesome, but the tunes are meh, and are conversions from the Amiga :mrgreen:

I miss Jochen Hippel music. :(

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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby RetroNother » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:01 am

Not the best gfx, but my favorite Falcon demo regarding music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CACujLmRKAM
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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby calimero » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:39 pm

fidzen wrote:
Eero Tamminen wrote:Most liked Falcon demos on puet.net is good starting point:
http://www.pouet.net/prodlist.php?platf ... er=thumbup


The only problem is that there is a lot of demos. :-)
If you have any favourite demos that really kick the Amiga scene of the table,
I would like to know what demos to look at?


These are not demos but rather games but nonetheless stuff that show Falcon power (and shame Amiga users :) ):

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTxwfRl_I0U Quake 2 like engine
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjgWx3DE1CY Atari Quake 2: Beyond Q2, part #1 (there is DL link in comment)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voiRnr72YhQ Cho Ren Sha
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQT5fordkHM Doom
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLPOMrAmiPs Beats of Rage
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKP2Xds-evg Ace synth
(note that some of this stuff require 14MB! Otherwise they run on original, unexpanded 16MHz 030 Falcon)
...This should be sufficient to show Falcon superiority over Amiga.

If you move to accelerator boards, any Amiga 68060 demo ported to Falcon works better (smoother) on Atari Falcon with CT6x since it use SD-RAM.


Beside demos already mentioned here in thread, I would add few:

- Electric Night by Dune and SMFX 2016 http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=68566
- Don´t Break The Oath by DHS http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2165 (require 50MHz 030)
- Joint Venture by Absence and other 1996 http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=15718
- Enraged by Avena [web] & Digital Chaos 1995 http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11224
- Obnoxious by Inter Development 1995 http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=17786
and I like Mystic Bytes demos :)


Note that some years ago I open similar thread on eab - I ask Amiga users to point me to demos that are the best regarding 3D stuff on plain Amiga 1200 with Fast ram:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=69697
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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby lotek_style » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:57 pm

As it seems nobody mentioned it yet:

https://demozoo.org/productions/9631/

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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby christos » Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:02 pm

christos wrote:I would like to add Delta and Beams


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Re: Best Falcon 030 demos?

Postby fidzen » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:31 pm

Thanks for all input, I will look at all demos suggested here and feel what my Atari heart says. :-)
Atari Falcon, 14Mb RAM, CT60e, Supervidel, Svetlana, 512Mb RAM, 8Gb CF.
Atari Falcon, 14Mb RAM, CT63, 256Mb RAM,4Gb CF.
Firebee Series 2, 16Gb CF, 2Gb SD, MEGA ST Keyboard and Atari Mice.
Atari Stacy 2 with 4Mb RAM and 20Mb HD.
Atari Lynx II with new LCD and VGA output.
Atari 2600 4-switch Woody


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