A good & working net browser?

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Re: A good & working net browser?

Postby mikro » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:14 pm

Personally I'm more fan of the <modern crap> -> HTML 3.2 conversion. IMHO clicking on images will ruin the whole experience of surfing the hypertext (copy & paste, anyone?). But if someone really needs quick & working solution, surely this helps a lot.

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Re: A good & working net browser?

Postby vido » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:58 pm

Instead of proxy you can just use avnc and use modern browser remote on modern computer. That way you will have best result for sure!

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Re: A good & working net browser?

Postby wongck » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:13 pm

vido wrote:Instead of proxy you can just use avnc and use modern browser remote on modern computer. That way you will have best result for sure!

If you need to write a doc or spreadsheet, you can also do the same with a VNC via google docs.
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Re: A good & working net browser?

Postby simonsunnyboy » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:27 pm

mikro wrote:Personally I'm more fan of the <modern crap> -> HTML 3.2 conversion. IMHO clicking on images will ruin the whole experience of surfing the hypertext (copy & paste, anyone?). But if someone really needs quick & working solution, surely this helps a lot.


Due to modern CSS being used with div tags and the less and less use of tables and frames for layout, many sites are actually usable with CAB if it would not try to prerender or render unknown tags.
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Re: A good & working net browser?

Postby wongck » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:55 pm

What is needed is actually a faster network stack.
This I saw while developing the google maps application, the graphics conversion & rendering is much faster than downloading the map.
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Re: A good & working net browser?

Postby joska » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:40 am

wongck wrote:What is needed is actually a faster network stack.


This is an insignificant problem compared to the complexity of rendering current web-sites.
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Re: A good & working net browser?

Postby joska » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:47 am

mikro wrote:Personally I'm more fan of the <modern crap> -> HTML 3.2 conversion.


Yes, that is a better solution. But also a *lot* harder. I have not found any existing solution for doing this. OTOH using webkit to render bitmaps is very easy.

mikro wrote:IMHO clicking on images will ruin the whole experience of surfing the hypertext (copy & paste, anyone?). But if someone really needs quick & working solution, surely this helps a lot.


The simple proxy I pointed to was not meant as a solution, but an example. You can extend that proxy with direct support for the client's screen format, and also copy/paste since webkit knows exactly what's on any position of a bitmap. You "just" need to write a webbrowser GUI for the Atari that talks to the proxy.

And before someone suggests VNC again - no, that's not the same ;)
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Re: A good & working net browser?

Postby wongck » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:51 pm

May be on my system the network is bad because when I used Netsurf, it is waiting for downloads to happens.
I also experienced this in apps developing.
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