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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby wongck » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:57 pm

I use VGA cable for my windoze on 1920x1080 HD LCD.
So i thnk it is possible.
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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:43 pm

I have similar problem, on Falcon with Radeon card I use LCD monitor, with nominal resolution 1680x1050, and I have to use DVI cable, on the standard VGA cable there is not TOS change resolution Mon.1 is disable, and I can not set this resolution, with DVI cable is OK

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby paul92706 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:54 pm

Ektus wrote:
paul92706 wrote:My file system looks good, and i am using COP's, so i don't think there's a problem there. Maybe it could be because you are using the DVI cable? i am using standard VGA 15pin cable.


I can try and test with a VGA cable, but don't know if the high resolutions are available via VGA. I won't have access to the Falcon before Friday, though.


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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby paul92706 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:54 pm

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby mikro » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:25 am

Kroll wrote:I checked it, this is a problem with the newer MiNT,
keyboard, mouse, mass storage works without any problems with versions 1-17 on which also works with network cards.

Back to this issue. In your bug report you mention 1-18-1 beta as the working one.

I'm wondering, can you try this: https://github.com/freemint/freemint.gi ... t-1_18/old (this should be the same as freemint.org's 1.18-1 beta, I have totally forgotten we provide it on github as well ;)) ... this should work as expected.

And then the attached build (produced by Alan's script so basically the same). This shouldn't work.
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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:11 am

mikro wrote:Back to this issue. In your bug report you mention 1-18-1 beta as the working one.


In this thread you quoted, I raised the problem, with mass storage connected to Netusbee that does not work with MiNT 1-19-cur.

mikro wrote:I'm wondering, can you try this: https://github.com/freemint/freemint.gi ... t-1_18/old (this should be the same as freemint.org's 1.18-1 beta, I have totally forgotten we provide it on github as well ;)) ... this should work as expected.

And then the attached build (produced by Alan's script so basically the same). This shouldn't work.


Here I wanted to describe because recently I managed to connect to my CTPCI, USB card on the PCI connector and tested the keyboard, mouse and mass storage connected to this card, maybe a fuss and I will look this.
Here I will write only to CTPCI users and those who have connected a USB card to the PCI connector.

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:45 pm

As I wrote above, I back to test USB card on PCI connector in my CTPCI
I plug keybord and mouse to this card.

Both devices are correctly detected at boot time.

I tested with TOS, Magic and MiNT
Under TOS and MagiC is OK, and I tested a few version of MiNT.
1.17, 1.18, 1.18-1 it is working, without problems

The only problem I noticed was with the latest 1-19-cur builds from freemint.org (trunk-26....) In this moment I have compilation from 26 september.

If I pressed any key or mouse after starting the system, then the system hangs and I had to shut down the computer.

micro:
If I ran your compilation for a network card (see the thread about the Realtek card) pre_pcibios package, then it is OK.

Ektus:
I noticed another problem, practically did not work left and right SHIFT key on my keyboard, no response after pressing under TOS and MagiC,
Under MiNT, when I press only left SHIFT on the screen shows "6", pressing right SHIFT letter "a".
What do you think about it ? Is this a problem in the TOS Drivers 1.02 ? or only with my keyboard.

The keyboard I checked on PC is OK
Unfortunately at this moment I have not other keyboard to check
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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby mikro » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:25 pm

Kroll, please don't mix the issues. Why do you mention the network card issue, this thread is about "CTPCI and USB card". So I have made you a build to test USB and you mention how your network card works? Please test the attached "without_delay.zip", that will reveal whether the USB bug is the one I think it is.

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:14 pm

mikro wrote:Kroll, please don't mix the issues. Why do you mention the network card issue, this thread is about "CTPCI and USB card"
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I'm sorry, maybe my mistake and not really clear it, but I just wanted to say that this package 1-19 (packages pre_pcibios.zip) did not crash the system, with the keyboard and mouse connected to the USB ports on my PCI card, compared to builds from freemint.org (1-19-cur)

mikro wrote:So I have made you a build to test USB and you mention how your network card works? Please test the attached "without_delay.zip", that will reveal whether the USB bug is the one I think it is.


Ok thank you, please wait, I have problem to run this build (If I need, write PM to you)

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby mikro » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:20 pm

Yes, it's a bit confusing because you're trying to solve many issues in one thread (this one particularly: usb keyboard/mouse, mass storage and IDE).

So. We know that the network issue is caused by adding a PCI BIOS wrapper to FreeMiNT, good.

We also happen to know that your USB keyboard and mouse works with the pre-PCI BIOS version as well (and hangs with the latest 1.19, however please verify it hangs also with the post-pcibios version)

And then we have the netusbee issue, about which we know next to nothing except that it works with the latest 1.18 build. "without_delay.zip" is the latest 1.18 with one suspicious commit removed, this should make it not working.

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:05 am

mikro wrote:Yes, it's a bit confusing because you're trying to solve many issues in one thread (this one particularly: usb keyboard/mouse, mass storage and IDE).

So. We know that the network issue is caused by adding a PCI BIOS wrapper to FreeMiNT, good.

We also happen to know that your USB keyboard and mouse works with the pre-PCI BIOS version as well (and hangs with the latest 1.19, however please verify it hangs also with the post-pcibios version)


I have also checked and the post-pcibios version not working, if press any key on the USB keyboard, system crash and I have to switch the computer

mikro wrote:And then we have the netusbee issue, about which we know next to nothing except that it works with the latest 1.18 build. "without_delay.zip" is the latest 1.18 with one suspicious commit removed, this should make it not working.


I also test "without_delay.zip", please look at a picture what I have on the screen after start MiNT and Thing as a desktop
Photo-0085.jpg

Photo-0086.jpg


and then I run loader.prg in USB directory

Photo-0087.jpg

Photo-0088.jpg


and the drive "q" is readeble
Please let me know if yot you want to more test.
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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby mikro » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:34 am

OK, this means that the suspicious commit wasn't that suspicious after all. ;-)

So, this brings us back to the question from the network thread: what happens if you run pre_pcibios and try your netusbee? Because you reported there a kernel version mismatch but I think this was related to the fact you forgot to switch mint060.prg in AUTO. Especially now, when you can test USB keyboard/mouse with pre_pcibios without any problem.

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:00 am

mikro wrote:OK, this means that the suspicious commit wasn't that suspicious after all. ;-)

So, this brings us back to the question from the network thread: what happens if you run pre_pcibios and try your netusbee? Because you reported there a kernel version mismatch but I think this was related to the fact you forgot to switch mint060.prg in AUTO. Especially now, when you can test USB keyboard/mouse with pre_pcibios without any problem.


I ran pre_pcibios (I'm sure I'm running a good mint060.prg file), please look at this, but is still the same

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby mikro » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:25 am

So you can have your USB mouse/keyboard even without usbloader? OK... I'll try to run it on my machine. If this will work (pre_pcibios), then it's actually pretty good news, all your issues have one common denominator.

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby mikro » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:35 am

Kroll wrote:
mikro wrote:I ran pre_pcibios (I'm sure I'm running a good mint060.prg file), please look at this, but is still the same

Photo-0076.jpg

Of course that it doesn't work. Please check where do you run your usb loader from, 1-18-cur! This is 1-19-cur.

EDIT: At least I hope I read it properly? Is it 1-18-cur or 1-19-cur?

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby mikro » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:49 am

OK, attaching pre_pcibios which has been verified by me that it works all right. I'm lazy to check the old archive, maybe I was the one who messed things up. Please test your netusbee and if it works, we can move on as clearly there's a bug in the PCI BIOS wrapper in 1.19.
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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:29 am

mikro wrote:So you can have your USB mouse/keyboard even without usbloader?


Yes, exactly.
The usbloader has nothing to do with the USB mouse/keyboard

mikro wrote:OK... I'll try to run it on my machine. If this will work (pre_pcibios), then it's actually pretty good news, all your issues have one common denominator.


OK I understand you

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:31 am

mikro wrote:Of course that it doesn't work. Please check where do you run your usb loader from, 1-18-cur! This is 1-19-cur.

EDIT: At least I hope I read it properly? Is it 1-18-cur or 1-19-cur?


I checked,I am sure that USB loader is from 1-19-cur

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:53 am

mikro wrote:OK, attaching pre_pcibios which has been verified by me that it works all right. I'm lazy to check the old archive, maybe I was the one who messed things up. Please test your netusbee and if it works, we can move on as clearly there's a bug in the PCI BIOS wrapper in 1.19.


I copied to my disk pre_pcibios_2.zip and look at at photo. What do you think about it?
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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Latz » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:19 am

Hi,
Kroll wrote:I copied to my disk pre_pcibios_2.zip and look at at photo. What do you think about it?


Perhaps you should disable/remove the USB drivers that are not needed ->EtherNat? Unicorn?

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby mikro » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:26 am

I think this means that there are two bugs in the kernel then. ;-) One is related to the PCI BIOS wrapper (freezing of your usb mouse/keyboard and the network card driver) and one is quite unusual:

- it works in 1-18-cur
- it works in 1-18-cur without the suspicious delay change
- doesn't work at all in pre-PCI BIOS builds (netusbee isn't detected at all)
- doesn't work at all in post-PCI BIOS builds (ditto, judging from your networking thread)
- at some stage (unknown commit) it has started reporting the invalid chip error, i.e. at least doing something

Couldn't that message be from the unicorn driver (hey Latz, we think likewise!) ? Try to have only netusbee.ucd & storage.udd enabled, just to be sure.

To me it looks worth investigating where exactly it had broken in 1.19 branch, clearly before PCI BIOS.

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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:57 am

mikro wrote:I think this means that there are two bugs in the kernel then. ;-) One is related to the PCI BIOS wrapper (freezing of your usb mouse/keyboard and the network card driver) and one is quite unusual:

- it works in 1-18-cur
- it works in 1-18-cur without the suspicious delay change
- doesn't work at all in pre-PCI BIOS builds (netusbee isn't detected at all)
- doesn't work at all in post-PCI BIOS builds (ditto, judging from your networking thread)
- at some stage (unknown commit) it has started reporting the invalid chip error, i.e. at least doing something

Couldn't that message be from the unicorn driver (hey Latz, we think likewise!) ? Try to have only netusbee.ucd & storage.udd enabled, just to be sure.


OK I made once again with only this drivers
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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby mikro » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:06 am

Oh crap, so it's the Unicorn module which 'overlaps' with netusbee errors, nice. I presume when you run post_pcibios (without other drivers), you get the same message?

To keep you busy for a while (and get me some starting point where it still works), I'm attaching two builds:

usb_d80bd4cc -- last common commit for 1.18.0 and 1.19.x (this should really work!)
usb_c1790536 -- first suspicious commit I found in 1.19.x after the split. Maybe works, maybe doesn't (would be nice if not)
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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:48 am

mikro wrote:Oh crap, so it's the Unicorn module which 'overlaps' with netusbee errors, nice. I presume when you run post_pcibios (without other drivers), you get the same message?

To keep you busy for a while (and get me some starting point where it still works), I'm attaching two builds:

usb_d80bd4cc -- last common commit for 1.18.0 and 1.19.x (this should really work!)


I thing it is working, look at picture :)
This mint060prg from auto folder loading xaaes from 1-18-cur, I see it because I set in xaaes.cnf other resolution on Radeon card and set background image :D
Photo-0081.jpg


mikro wrote:usb_c1790536 -- first suspicious commit I found in 1.19.x after the split. Maybe works, maybe doesn't (would be nice if not)


I replace mint060.prg in Auto folder but not working at all I can not start system, look at photo
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Re: CTPCI and USB card

Postby Kroll » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:09 am

mikro wrote:Oh crap, so it's the Unicorn module which 'overlaps' with netusbee errors, nice. I presume when you run post_pcibios (without other drivers), you get the same message?


OK I back to test once again for post_pcibios, and look at photo, but in this version with a problem with USB mouse/keybord (I dont remove this card from PCI) I noticed after some time the system crashed

Photo-0084.jpg


Next tests I will be able to make after returning home in about 3-4 hours :), Sorry
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