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CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR & CTPCI

Postby wongck » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:21 pm

For those who did not know...
There are new firmware updates for CT6x and CTPCI.
These are mainly to correct the bugs in CTPCI that stops USB and possibly network from working.
One update is DMA for video mode is working. Previous version hangs the machine after some time.
So far with this version I use it for over 3 hour without any hanging.

ABE_V7E, SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1K are the new firmware to get.

http://www.powerphenix.com/CTPCI/english/update.htm
http://www.powerphenix.com/CT60/english/update.htm
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby mdivancic » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:03 pm

Any reason to update if I just have the CT63?
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby Dal » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:08 pm

What version do you currently have on your CT63?
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby wongck » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:42 pm

mdivancic wrote:Any reason to update if I just have the CT63?

I guess none.
If you do not have a CTPCI, then you will not miss anything if you do not flash the firmware.
It's really just add functionality to enable some features of CTPCI to be running.
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby paul92706 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:55 am

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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby wongck » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:17 am

Back in Dec, I received an email from him, trying to sell off his last ( may be last few) CTPCI.
No mention of CT6x in the email.
I assume that the CTPCI is probably sold by now, as there are many enhancements ( well not really enhancement...) done to it now.
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby paul92706 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:28 am

wongck wrote:Back in Dec, I received an email from him, trying to sell off his last ( may be last few) CTPCI.
No mention of CT6x in the email.
I assume that the CTPCI is probably sold by now, as there are many enhancements ( well not really enhancement...) done to it now.

oh ok, i wonder if there will be more in production in the future.
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New IDE port debugged !!

Postby wongck » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:27 am

News on DHS.net
The IDE ports are now debugged but needs software from Didier and possibly new HDDriver version to support this !!
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Re: New IDE port debugged !!

Postby paul92706 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:34 am

wongck wrote:News on DHS.net
The IDE ports are now debugged but needs software from Didier and possibly new HDDriver version to support this !!

i sent rodolphe an email 2 days ago on the status of my Ct60 and he replied back with he was finishing up the process. So does this mean we have IDE HD support on CTPCI?
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby Dal » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:29 am

Nearly. As Wong says, it needs some software modifications before it's complete.
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby wongck » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:40 am

Worried that there may be some more delay... look at a huge technical post by Rodolphe to Didier, some disagreement .... but at least there's communication on going... :)
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby paul92706 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:22 pm

wongck wrote:Worried that there may be some more delay... look at a huge technical post by Rodolphe to Didier, some disagreement .... but at least there's communication on going... :)

hi wongck what website is it posted on? i also heard from rodolphe in a few months he is designing a new product, maybe a new accelorator board?
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby Dal » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:28 pm

Look on Dead Hackers Society for the latest ct60/CTPCI news. I also had a message from Rodolphe about this 'possible' new accelerator. I did ask whether it might be coldfire based but he said it would be 68060 - although I don't know where he might find a good supply of rev6 060's? I ordered my 2nd ct63 from him at the beginning of November and he still hasn't got a decent 060 for it yet.
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby Mug UK » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:39 pm

Rodolphe has requested a CT60 sub-forum on here - or was that in the same message you're referring to Dal (I can't remember these days which messages get sent to which admins!).
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby Dal » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:43 pm

Did he? Ok, let's get it done... Give me a few minutes.
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby Dal » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:50 pm

Tis done! ;)
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby wongck » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:35 pm

Dal wrote:Did he? Ok, let's get it done... Give me a few minutes.

Dal wrote:Tis done! ;)


What??!! That took 7 minutes, why so long.... just joking :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: impressed actually.
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby wongck » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:36 pm

wongck wrote:Worried that there may be some more delay... look at a huge technical post by Rodolphe to Didier, some disagreement .... but at least there's communication on going... :)


So much for communication.... the 2 great gurus are now debating about SDR transfers... :roll:
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby wongck » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:37 pm

paul92706 wrote:hi wongck what website is it posted on? i also heard from rodolphe in a few months he is designing a new product, maybe a new accelorator board?


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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby paul92706 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:06 am

wongck wrote:
paul92706 wrote:hi wongck what website is it posted on? i also heard from rodolphe in a few months he is designing a new product, maybe a new accelorator board?


WOW.... you don't know DHS? You're missing out on the action!!!!

lol! yes i have been channeled in!!! i asume you were speaking of another website! sweet!! we have a new CT60 subfolder forum on here! awesome!
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby wongck » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:44 pm

I have wired my system to use the new IDE port on the CTPCI.

I did a benchmark using HOWFAST.
The write speed was 2 x faster than the Falcon IDE port - that around 1200 KB/s.
But the read speed was slower - about 20% - that around 3800 KB/s.
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby paul92706 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:01 pm

wongck wrote:I have wired my system to use the new IDE port on the CTPCI.

I did a benchmark using HOWFAST.
The write speed was 2 x faster than the Falcon IDE port - that around 1200 KB/s.
But the read speed was slower - about 20% - that around 3800 KB/s.

So i would asume it would take longer to execute programs but i would asume its faster than stock IDE still huh? and super fast at saving files.
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby wongck » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:13 am

paul92706 wrote:So i would asume it would take longer to execute programs but i would asume its faster than stock IDE still huh? and super fast at saving files.


Well, TBH, I did not feel it was slower loading AUTO stuff in TOS. I guess loading is fraction of what it's doing when initialising the system.
OTOH, I always felt that writting has always been slow, so a 2x increase is great.

The story seems to change with Mint, I had always good benchmark in Mint for hard disk.
I think it is the efficient caching of Mint file system. That's why I seldom use it for bench-marking.
With MINT, it says it is reading 9+ MB/s which is full speed of what it display at boot time.
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby paul92706 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:17 am

Thats impressive, now i wonder if tests have been done on a CDROM?
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Re: CT6x/CTPCI new firmware update - SDR_V7D & CTPCI_1J

Postby wongck » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:06 am

Ok, here are some simple test to compare between Falcon IDE & IDE using Kronos CTPCI 2:01
(I yet to update to 2.02)
Using same Hard disk via 44pin to 40pin converter.
Cache set to 5s option.

Running on TOS using Falcon IDE:
DISK_READ = 5882; (Mo / sec)
DISK_WRITE = 3.600; (Mo / sec)

DISK_MULTIREAD = 4644; (Mo / sec)
DISK_MULTIWRITE = 4719; (Mo / sec)
DISK_CREATE_DELETE = 121.7; (op / sec)
DISK_READ_WRITE_CACHE = 4689; (Mo / sec)

Running on using TOS CTPCI IDE:
DISK_READ = 10 959, (Mo / sec)
DISK_WRITE = 4776; (Mo / sec)

DISK_MULTIREAD = 7211; (Mo / sec)
DISK_MULTIWRITE = 7336; (Mo / sec)
DISK_CREATE_DELETE = 143.2; (op / sec)
DISK_READ_WRITE_CACHE = 7318; (Mo / sec)

Running on using MINT Falcon IDE:
DISK_READ=6.190; (Mo/sec)
DISK_WRITE=5.893; (Mo/sec)

DISK_MULTIREAD=38.669; (Mo/sec)
DISK_MULTIWRITE=36.499; (Mo/sec)
DISK_CREATE_DELETE=159.0; (op/sec)
DISK_READ_WRITE_CACHE=37.616; (Mo/sec)

Running on using MINT CTPCI IDE:
DISK_READ = 12 379, (Mo / sec)
DISK_WRITE = 12 851, (Mo / sec)

DISK_MULTIREAD = 40 215, (Mo / sec)
DISK_MULTIWRITE = 37 362, (Mo / sec)
DISK_CREATE_DELETE = 255.0; (op / sec)
DISK_READ_WRITE_CACHE = 39 010, (Mo / sec)

TOS is nearly 200% faster read, write, is 30% faster!

Look at the last results, MINT on CTPCI IDE .... is that correct?
I think MINT caching is at play here.
So may be best to look at TOS results only.

Edit: clarify this is with cache 5s option.
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