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Milan headcount

Postby PeterS » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:49 am

I wonder how many Hades/Milan there are still out there ?

I have a working Milan (68060)

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby vido » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:30 pm

I also have working Milan (060) but curently unused because of the hdd crash and no time to sort this out.

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby arf » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:08 pm

+1, 040/25, 32 MB

It was a developer machine, handed out by A. Goukassian to those who "gifted" Home or Lite version of their software to be included in the original Milan package.

I got a 68060 adapter, so I’ll upgrade soon.

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby joska » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:14 pm

I have a Milan060 that see regular use.
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Re: Milan headcount

Postby Neurotoxic » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:46 pm

I've got a Milan040. It's not in regualr use anymore, but I try often stuff on my Milan and when there's a new software out there, I'm installing an testing it on my Milan.
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Re: Milan headcount

Postby Kroll » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:08 pm

I have got a Hades 060, and I am still using it with DTP and Calamus

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby Foxxy74 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:38 pm

Just bought an Adat Interface, same guy still got a Milan 040 and a TT on his attic. Im more interested in the TT, but for both machines there is not much software developed? Specific software i mean?
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New applications for the TOS platform (was: Milan headcount)

Postby arf » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:25 pm

Foxxy74 wrote:Just bought an Adat Interface, same guy still got a Milan 040 and a TT on his attic. Im more interested in the TT, but for both machines there is not much software developed? Specific software i mean?


Yes. But this is a pattern that you'd see on other vintage platforms, too – Mac 68k, Amiga, Acorn. Rarely new application software is developed, more likely tools and communication helpers. This is way quicker/shorter, and – what are you missing on the ST in terms of application software that’s feasible to do?

Or what’s wrong with That’s Write, Cypress, Papyrus, Calamus, Artworx, Stella, Kandinsky, X-Act, Texel, Phoenix, Smurf, Papillon, Adimens, Arabesque, CoNnect? PureC, Lattice C, Prospero Fortran, ORCS, RSM, Devpac?

I wouldn‘t write a new implementation of any of the above mentioned – these are large projects, and they existing ones are quite good. Stuff that would be handy to have, like Telnet/SSL, or reading xlsx, are again projects that are either large, or not feasible on the ST due to its hardware limitations.

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby Ektus » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:31 am

My Milan 040 is in daily use (part of the audio setup to listen to radio and for e-mail).


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Re: Milan headcount

Postby mzry » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:46 am

Ektus wrote:My Milan 040 is in daily use (part of the audio setup to listen to radio and for e-mail).


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Hi Ektus, just wondering what software you use for radio and e-mail?

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby PeterS » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:08 pm

I was wondering about the Radio.

I use MyMail but it looks like development has stopped. I asked Erik if he would open source it but he said it needs a clean-up before he does.

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby joska » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:30 pm

Troll is the most up-to-date mail client now. Yes, it's GUI is a bit peculiar but works very well when you figure it out.
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Re: Milan headcount

Postby Ektus » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:46 pm

mzry wrote:
Ektus wrote:My Milan 040 is in daily use (part of the audio setup to listen to radio and for e-mail).


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Hi Ektus, just wondering what software you use for radio and e-mail?

Thx


For radio: Just the mixer from the soundcard. FM Radio, cable to audio-in of the soundcard, cable from audio-out to a set of active speakers. No big deal :-)

For E-Mail, I'm using MyMail to check and delete SPAM and CAT to read and write E-Mail (POP3 without encryption) and News.


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Re: Milan headcount

Postby PeterS » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:20 pm

I thought you meant a radio streaming app.

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby Neurotoxic » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:29 pm

A streaming app for the TOS platform would be really nice. Streaming would be a nice feature for Aniplayer.
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Re: Milan headcount

Postby PeterS » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:21 pm

I remember trying to stream with CAB and Aniplayer back at the Millennium. It didn't work.

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby PeterS » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:52 pm

joska wrote:Troll is the most up-to-date mail client now. Yes, it's GUI is a bit peculiar but works very well when you figure it out.


I downloaded the latest Troll to give it another try.

I got it to connect to my mailbox then it locked-up and lost all it' settings. Back to MyMail.

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby Rustynutt » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:01 pm

Have a Milan to reassemble, unused for a few years. Purchased an 060 adapter to upgrade when time permits. Got side tracked thinking my TT would be the better DTP machine... admittedly the Milan is pretty nice.
Not a MiNT power user, configuring network card and driver's I'm sure will take more effort than the mechanics. Now have the ATI driver to try out, hoping that more performance than the included video card (forget now which it is, been so long).

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby jfl » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:23 pm

PeterS wrote:I downloaded the latest Troll to give it another try.

I got it to connect to my mailbox then it locked-up and lost all it' settings. Back to MyMail.

It would help if you would report this to Pierre (aka Rajah). He is very quick to react.
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Re: Milan headcount

Postby Richard » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:34 pm

I have one, with the 060 on board.

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Re: Milan headcount

Postby calimero » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:32 pm

Hi,
I just add Hades and Milan to Atari serial number database: http://milan.kovac.cc/atari/chipmunk/
(thread about database is here: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=24769)

please be free to add your machines to database.

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