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MilanBlaster problems

Postby joska » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:10 pm

I've recently started to play with the MilanBlaster I bought 15 years ago. Shortly after I had ordered it Ozk made a driver for PCI SoundBlaster-cards and the MilanBlaster was just tested briefly.

Now, the card is working. SAM and AniPlayer plays sounds. But when I'm trying to help mikro debug mxPlay on my Milan I've noticed a couple of odd things.

1. The _SND cookie. According to TOS.HYP and the MilanBlaster docs bits 2 and 5 should be set by the MilanBlaster driver. But on my Milan only bit 2 is set. Bit 5 indicates extended XBIOS features (MilanBlaster and GSXB) but is cleared.

2. I'm trying to use the extended features in sndstatus but they all returns zeros. So it seems like the _SND cookie is right, the MilanBlaster extended XBIOS features are not present.

Does anybody here have a Milan with MilanBlaster? Can you check the value of your _SND cookie? And would you be willing to run a small test-program?
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Neurotoxic » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:52 pm

joska wrote:Does anybody here have a Milan with MilanBlaster? Can you check the value of your _SND cookie? And would you be willing to run a small test-program?


Yes. Again yes but you must tell me how to do it. And yes again if it doesn't harm my Milan. :lol:

But I'm using an ISA card.
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby mikro » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:37 pm

Neurotoxic: run a tool like SysInfo (https://sites.google.com/site/stnonesse ... nf502e.zip) and look for "_SND" cookie. Just report the value set there. :)

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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Mark_G » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:06 am

I have also a Milan with Milanblaster installed, with a soundblaster ISA card.
I never got a PCI sound card working on my Milan
Anyhow, I've executed the program and for sound it shows value 4 : 16 bit CODEC
XBIOS was not marked with 'x' in the overview list.

BTW, I use Milanmagic and Aniplayer does not work properly on my Milan.
Also, the installation of Milanblaster was a hell of a job.
I only use GEMJing.

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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Neurotoxic » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:19 am

Here we go ... I've got the cookie list. Just have a look at the attached photos.
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Neurotoxic » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:29 am

Mark_G wrote:I have also a Milan with Milanblaster installed, with a soundblaster ISA card.
I never got a PCI sound card working on my Milan
Anyhow, I've executed the program and for sound it shows value 4 : 16 bit CODEC
XBIOS was not marked with 'x' in the overview list.

BTW, I use Milanmagic and Aniplayer does not work properly on my Milan.
Also, the installation of Milanblaster was a hell of a job.
I only use GEMJing.


Aniplayer just works fine on my Milan. I've got sound when using applications like Aniplayer, AtarICQ, AtarIRC, GEMJing, Sondigit, Tetrax, PaulaNG and some more. But I made the experience that there can only one application at time that uses the Milanblaster. E.g. if you try to open a Track in PaulaNG and you have still an application like Aniplayer running PaulaNG will crash if it tries to play the track.
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby mikro » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:30 am

Neurotoxic: thanks mate! So yes, your Milan Blaster driver seems to be installed properly.

I guess Mark_G & joska will appreciate some information how did you manage to do that as they are both missing the fifth bit in the _SND cookie.

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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Mark_G » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:45 am

Maybe, he can also tell me how you can capture a part of the 'Milan' screen, and show it in a browser.
The browser is probably on an external computer active.

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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby joska » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:57 am

mikro wrote:I guess Mark_G & joska will appreciate some information how did you manage to do that as they are both missing the fifth bit in the _SND cookie.


Definitely. Neurotoxic, I'll PM you about this.
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Neurotoxic » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:54 am

Mark_G wrote:Maybe, he can also tell me how you can capture a part of the 'Milan' screen, and show it in a browser.
The browser is probably on an external computer active.


Sorry guys I was sleeping. :)

I use fVDI Snap on my Milan for the screenshots. That works pretty nice for me.

http://ptonthat.fr/fvdi-snap/

I attached a screenshot of my isapnp.cnf to this post so you may have a look at it. I added some comments in german in that file. If you have any further questions just ask me I will try to answer them as well as possible.
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Rustynutt » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:22 pm

joska wrote:
mikro wrote:I guess Mark_G & joska will appreciate some information how did you manage to do that as they are both missing the fifth bit in the _SND cookie.


Definitely. Neurotoxic, I'll PM you about this.


Joska, don't forget to hook me up with the ATI driver while you have the Milan out!

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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby joska » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:13 pm

Ok, problem solved. I had an outdated driver. Neurotoxic sent me his for comparison, and it's a much never version. With this version the cookie is correct, and the extended XBIOS is actually present.
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby gstoll » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:08 am

joska wrote:and it's a much never version.

What version is it?

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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Mark_G » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:35 am

Yes, can you send me the info concerning the revision of the driver ?
I've an official version of Milanblaster, and after contact the creator told me that only one version was made.

Also strange is the following :
When I check the log file created by Magic at the boot sequence, it says that the XBIOS is set.
When I look at sysinfo, XBIOS is not marked.

Further,
Aniplayer plays some mp3, however, not correct. After some seconds ( the same time as the time set dor the buffer), it start to scramble the mp3.
I thought that this was an Magic problem, What do you think ?

At last :)
fVDI works, It makes a TGA file, and I can import it in papyrus.
However my background color is always 'yellow'.

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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby joska » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:43 am

Mark_G wrote:Yes, can you send me the info concerning the revision of the driver ?


I could not find any version number, but the readme is dated May 29th 2000. The original floppy I have (which I btw bought in 2001) is from 1998.

There are several differences - MB_BIOS.PRG is almost twice as big as the 1998-version, there are additional drivers for Crystal and Opti soundcards, a completely new mixer and some addititonal software.

Mark_G wrote:When I check the log file created by Magic at the boot sequence, it says that the XBIOS is set.
When I look at sysinfo, XBIOS is not marked.


What do you mean by "XBIOS is not marked"? There is always an XBIOS, and the fact that your _SND cookie has a value means that MilanBlaster XBIOS is added.

Mark_G wrote:Aniplayer plays some mp3, however, not correct. After some seconds ( the same time as the time set dor the buffer), it start to scramble the mp3.
I thought that this was an Magic problem, What do you think ?


Which version of Aniplayer is this? I have an ancient version from 2001 on my Milan, and while I haven't tested mp3's it plays WAV samples correctly.

Mark_G wrote:fVDI works, It makes a TGA file, and I can import it in papyrus.
However my background color is always 'yellow'.


There is also jpegsnap from Didier Mequignon. It's from the FireTOS tools archive, but works fine on my Milan. See attachment.
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Neurotoxic » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:27 am

I have version 2.2b from January 10th, 2001 installed. Aniplayer and gemjing are working very well for me under Magic Milan 6.1. I also have a version from 1998. In the read me file from 1998 you can read that this driver is for a SoundBlaster 16 PNP card only. In the read me file from the newer driver you can read that this driver is for the SoundBlaster 16 PNP, an OPTI or Crystal card. There is also a difference between the two drivers concerning the installation. The newer one doesn't need the "mcsound.prg" installed anymore.

I haven't tested fVDI Snap under Magic yet. Perhaps I should do so and take snapshots of the cookie list again?
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Neurotoxic » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:31 am

joska wrote:There is also jpegsnap from Didier Mequignon. It's from the FireTOS tools archive, but works fine on my Milan. See attachment.


I'm to stupid to use jpegsnap. I never get it done. :?
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby Ektus » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:25 pm

My Version of MilanBlaster XBIOS is 2.1, May 25, 2000 Rainer Mannigel.
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Re: MilanBlaster problems

Postby PeterS » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:29 pm

I have an isa milanblaster.

Inside the mb_bios.prg it says it is Version 2.1 (May 25 2000).
The file is 17,617 bytes.


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