Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

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Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

Postby MrPixel » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:06 pm

would it be possible to play far from home and gone away on zx spectrum? beeper wise?

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Re: Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

Postby mlynn1974 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:44 pm

I don't know if you're joking:
The serious answer is the beeper is a very basic 2 channel sound generator. The only guys who made decent digi effects on the 48k were Tim Follin (AgentX, LED Storm), David Whittaker (Dizzy) and Jonathan Smith (Firefly, Mikie). You also don't have enough memory to store a giant sample in memory. If you want a beeper version of the tunes you'd have to get the notation and input that in a chip tracker and use a sound driver to replay the tune. Melbourne House Music Box 48k isn't that good. Voice and SFX sampling was very low frequency, low bit rate.
You might want to ask these guys:
https://www.worldofspectrum.org/forums/

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Re: Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

Postby MrPixel » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:16 pm

i was joking, but your reply gave me a clear answer:it cannot be done.

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Re: Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

Postby shoggoth » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:17 pm

It's not even a two-channel tone generator; the beeper membrane state is controlled directly by the CPU, and it's either on or off. There are no channels, nothing is timer-controlled, it's all CPU.

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Re: Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

Postby arcx » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:32 pm

Yes lol, it would require a particular level of creativity

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Re: Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

Postby shoggoth » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:56 pm

Yep, it does. With some clever modulation techniques, one can nevertheless achieve some pretty decent results. Just listen to the Cobra intro music, for example. Very creative use of that single-bit beeper!
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Re: Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

Postby farvardin » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:36 pm

you're probably all joking: it's possible to get up to 16 channels on beeper music, and some engines like Octode can play 8 channels with drums (like this one: http://battleofthebits.org/arena/Entry/ ... ift/16364/ )

There are several new incredible 1bit engines released even nowadays, and believe me you can get much more than you think!

Have a look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eW39C1hQgU (4 channel PCM wavetable)
https://soundcloud.com/irrlicht-project ... queek-test
https://soundcloud.com/irrlicht-project ... -2k16-test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBpdvYkGtzs

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Re: Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

Postby Mug UK » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:56 pm

Try Beepola as it has many drivers for various Speccy music routines from yesteryear built-in - including Ping Pong/Cobra drivers.

http://freestuff.grok.co.uk/beepola/

There's also a link at the bottom of the above page that points to the 1-bit Music Forum too.

http://randomflux.info/1bit/
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Re: Five finger death punch on zx spectrum

Postby shoggoth » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:30 pm

farvardin wrote:you're probably all joking: it's possible to get up to 16 channels on beeper music, and some engines like Octode can play 8 channels with drums (like this one: http://battleofthebits.org/arena/Entry/ ... ift/16364/ )

There are several new incredible 1bit engines released even nowadays, and believe me you can get much more than you think!


Point being: Not much spare CPU time to speak of, since it's all done by the CPU. There is no tone generator.

Of course the Speccy + beeper is much better than people think :) We can 100% safely agree on that.
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