dexterslab wrote:yea, i'd like to have one... can't justify the cost though
PeterS wrote:The design looks suitable for putting in a laptop but I can't find any laptop enclosures.
PeterS wrote:I don't think the price is fixed yet, I have heard rumours, either way it won't be cheap due to the low volume production.
Mathias wrote:PeterS wrote:The price is fixed. It´s 599,- Euros + your local VAT or import sales tax + shipping. You can (pre-)order directly at acpinfo at atari.org or at medusacomputer.com
wongck wrote: And we are like how many months away from production?
PeterS wrote:I hadn't realised the parts were so expensive. Obviously this isn't a PC which you have to replace every 2 years because it's too slow or hasn't got enough memory. I bought my Milan in 98 or 99 and I have spent quite a bit on it but it is still going strong. Hopefully this will be the same or better.
wongck wrote:I really believed that this was a product done by Medusa and so will have some defined time line.
Mathias wrote:Thank you also for your kind words about the right direction.
KLund1 wrote:This looks like a great idea/project!! I might like to get one! After looking over the Atari Coldfire web site, there are a lot of things that are a bit vague, at least to me, about this wonderful product they are still working on. I hope they can put more info about there system on there web site.
joska wrote:I'm not so sure about running old games and stuff like that, the Coldfire itself is not 100% 68k-compatible so there will have to be some emulation involved.
alexh wrote:joska wrote:I'm not so sure about running old games and stuff like that, the Coldfire itself is not 100% 68k-compatible so there will have to be some emulation involved.
I believe there is little chance of it being able to run the vast majority of pre-compiled Atari ST games & Demo's. They were all about instruction timing which will be different. Plus the overhead of the 68k emulator is reported to take the Coldfire to an average of below 030@50MHz performance which is why the Amiga Coldfire design (Dragon) was shelved. It is possible they could be patched but the work is enormous.
alexh wrote:Plus the overhead of the 68k emulator is reported to take the Coldfire to an average of below 030@50MHz performance
dexterslab wrote:alexh wrote:Plus the overhead of the 68k emulator is reported to take the Coldfire to an average of below 030@50MHz performance
thats a real shame, though the other features would boost comparative performance... bus speed etc. Shame they didn't use a real 060 with fpga for everything else
alexh wrote:I'm sure cost is irrelevant to potential buyers?
If it were then their choice would be emulation (ARAnyM?). Much cheaper, faster with potentially higher compatibility.
joska wrote:Why a 060? That would only be a Falcon+CT60-clone. The Coldfire is much faster, and it has a lot of stuff built-in which makes the ACP much cheaper than a 060-based clone would. The ACP might seem expensive, but in reality it's the cheapest clone ever made.
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