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Postby Gamer » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:28 pm

I want to install the full Mint manually on my Firebee as I did on my Falcon. I have the necessary files to do that including all the rpm files. However when I tried to extract the TAR files to my Firebee, I keep getting I/O errors and a lot of files and folders do not get extracted. The TAR file keeps saying it cannot create the directories I need. Any have this problem before or have a solution. On the Falcon things runs fine. Is there a Coldfire version of the tar.ttp that works better or is there another solution?

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Postby wongck » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:07 pm

I suppose you are un-taring to ext2 file system.
if so, you can mount the partition onto Linux and directly untar using Linux tools.
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Postby joska » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:03 pm

What tar-files are you refering to?
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Postby wongck » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:04 am

or you can find a coldfire tar here
http://vincent.riviere.free.fr/soft/m68 ... /mint/tar/

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:59 pm

I am basically following Wongck instructions on installing Mint. It worked very well on my Falcon. I do not need some things concerning the Firebee, but I wanted to installed the RPM files and use programs like Bash and Sharity on the Coldifre.

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:07 pm

wongck wrote:I suppose you are un-taring to ext2 file system.
if so, you can mount the partition onto Linux and directly untar using Linux tools.


Yes I am un-taring to a ext2 file system.I am glad I am using the Coldfire TOSwin2 program. Until then, un-taring mishaps resulted in me having to re-format the ext-2 on my wife's PC using Mini-Partition Tool. I could also have done using G-Parted on my Open Pandora.

I was thinking I would have to do what you are suggesting and using Linux tools to do the un-taring. I just may give that a try if things do not go well.

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:13 pm

joska wrote:What tar-files are you refering to?


The one file that gave me trouble was rootfs+rpm-3.06.tgz. When trying to un-tar the resulting tar file, things went fine until the USR folder. All the other folders camo out fine, but this one resulted inI/O errors. Certain folders were not formed so the files had no where to go. I know I do not need most of the resulting files, but I still need some of the folder locations (I think).

I want to get things setup, so I can upgrade to Mint 1.19 and then go and install NES 2.0

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Postby frank.lukas » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:07 pm

You also can try EasyMiNT 1.90 with your Firebee ...
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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby wongck » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:41 pm

Gamer wrote:I am basically following Wongck instructions on installing Mint. It worked very well on my Falcon. I do not need some things concerning the Firebee, but I wanted to installed the RPM files and use programs like Bash and Sharity on the Coldifre.


Thanks for trying out the guide.

For Firebee, I basically duplicated my Falcon HDD over to a CF and then over wrote CF versions of the binaries from Vincent software.
I cannot remember all the steps but basically as follows
1/ I created a tar of my entire Falcon D: . The tar ball was like 200MB, copied it over to the PC.
2/ I created the standard C D E on the CF with Gparted on the PC. C is the MS partition. D is the e2fs.
3/ Mounted the e2fs, and then untar the entire 200MB into the CF. It took like 3-5 mins max. :)
4/ Attach the CF into the Firebee, and attach the HDD onto the Firebee (using my Falcon IDE cable)
5/ Boot up Firebee, the C: drive boots up empty and F: as the HDD boot drive.
6/ Navigate to Kobold on F: and then copy AUTO from F to C, use keeping order and GEMDOS mode ( not the fastest but still good)
7/ After that I copied the rest of the folders and stuff. You can leave out HDDRIVER.SYS.
Total time was less than 45 minutes and all set to go. :mrgreen:

8/ start replacing the 68K binaries with CF binaries.
This is longest and slowest section of the migration. I am not even sure if I done everything. :roll:

I am sure this is not the only method and so far everything on the FB seems to be OK for me.
You see one issue here is that you do not know if the stuff you running is the old 68K or new CF binaries.
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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:26 pm

frank.lukas wrote:You also can try EasyMiNT 1.90 with your Firebee ...


Yes I will try that if all else fails. When I had my hades, Easymint worked out great.

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:29 pm

wongck wrote:
Gamer wrote:I am basically following Wongck instructions on installing Mint. It worked very well on my Falcon. I do not need some things concerning the Firebee, but I wanted to installed the RPM files and use programs like Bash and Sharity on the Coldifre.


Thanks for trying out the guide.

For Firebee, I basically duplicated my Falcon HDD over to a CF and then over wrote CF versions of the binaries from Vincent software.
I cannot remember all the steps but basically as follows
1/ I created a tar of my entire Falcon D: . The tar ball was like 200MB, copied it over to the PC.
2/ I created the standard C D E on the CF with Gparted on the PC. C is the MS partition. D is the e2fs.
3/ Mounted the e2fs, and then untar the entire 200MB into the CF. It took like 3-5 mins max. :)
4/ Attach the CF into the Firebee, and attach the HDD onto the Firebee (using my Falcon IDE cable)
5/ Boot up Firebee, the C: drive boots up empty and F: as the HDD boot drive.
6/ Navigate to Kobold on F: and then copy AUTO from F to C, use keeping order and GEMDOS mode ( not the fastest but still good)
7/ After that I copied the rest of the folders and stuff. You can leave out HDDRIVER.SYS.
Total time was less than 45 minutes and all set to go. :mrgreen:

8/ start replacing the 68K binaries with CF binaries.
This is longest and slowest section of the migration. I am not even sure if I done everything. :roll:

I am sure this is not the only method and so far everything on the FB seems to be OK for me.
You see one issue here is that you do not know if the stuff you running is the old 68K or new CF binaries.


Quite a lot of steps, but it is again something to try. Thanks much and for the guide. It has been very useful to me. How dis you un-tar your file to the D drive on the PC? I know on a Linux machine, all the drives are seen. However on my PC only the C drive is seen.

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby wongck » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:58 pm

Gamer wrote:Quite a lot of steps, but it is again something to try. Thanks much and for the guide. It has been very useful to me. How dis you un-tar your file to the D drive on the PC? I know on a Linux machine, all the drives are seen. However on my PC only the C drive is seen.


sorry when I say PC, I meant Personal Computer in the generic term not specifically meaning wintel. :angel:
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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:03 pm

wongck wrote:or you can find a coldfire tar here
http://vincent.riviere.free.fr/soft/m68 ... /mint/tar/

also tons of coldfire software as well


How does one handle a bz2 file before you have the actual command in the USR folder. Is there a bzip.ttp file somewhere? I seem to remember that a LONG time ago...

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby wongck » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:48 pm

The bzip from your Falcon can be used by renaming it to bzip.ttp.
The executable from the /bin folders are all TOS programs without extensions.
In the UI world they are called console programs, we normally call then TOS programs.
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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:24 am

wongck wrote:The bzip from your Falcon can be used by renaming it to bzip.ttp.
The executable from the /bin folders are all TOS programs without extensions.
In the UI world they are called console programs, we normally call then TOS programs.


That little fact I completely forgot. Thank you for reminding me. I believe I can finally get this done on the Firebee. Then, after a backup, I can get start installing NES 2.0 which by the way I bought from the author.

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Postby BlankVector » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:22 pm

Gamer wrote:Is there a Coldfire version of the tar.ttp that works better or is there another solution?

You can always find a tar binary for ColdFire there.
Download tar-*-bin-mintv4e*.tar.bz2, extract usr/bin/tar and rename it to tar.ttp.
But I fear it will not work better than yours. You may have a corrupted filesystem, or something like that.

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:21 pm

BlankVector wrote:
Gamer wrote:Is there a Coldfire version of the tar.ttp that works better or is there another solution?

You can always find a tar binary for ColdFire there.
Download tar-*-bin-mintv4e*.tar.bz2, extract usr/bin/tar and rename it to tar.ttp.
But I fear it will not work better than yours. You may have a corrupted filesystem, or something like that.



Yeah, I am hoping that too. If it does not work, I will just reformat the EXT2 partition and try it again.

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:22 am

BlankVector wrote:
Gamer wrote:Is there a Coldfire version of the tar.ttp that works better or is there another solution?

You can always find a tar binary for ColdFire there.
Download tar-*-bin-mintv4e*.tar.bz2, extract usr/bin/tar and rename it to tar.ttp.
But I fear it will not work better than yours. You may have a corrupted filesystem, or something like that.


I tried this twice and it almost worked. The process would go fine for a little while, then just stop. I let it go for about 1 hour and still nothing. Is a connection on the board for leting me know if the CF is being accessed? I have a two prong connector that is not connected to anything (on the case for the FB). Is there a place on the FB board that his connects to? Or is there a program that tells if the CF is being accessed?

Anyway, I hooked up the FB CF to my Linux computer, the Pandora, and was able to format the Mint Partition on the CF using G-Parted. I will try and put all the Mint files on the partition.

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby Gamer » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:08 am

Well it seems I cannot just copy files to the EXT2 partition and un-tar on the linux desktop. I can only do it under ROOT, so I have to use a root console to accomplish this.

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Re: Tar.ttp

Postby vido » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:15 am

You succeded as a root?


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