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Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:12 am
by 607
Hello!

On my Atari ST, I use DEGAS Elite to create graphics. Now, I was wondering if it'd be possible to 'insert' a picture from elsewhere, there.
Like how when working in Paint.NET, I might want to copy and paste an image from the internet... that isn't possible on Atari ST, however.
But can I somehow make an image that I can open in DEGAS Elite from my pc?
I've got diskettes, a Windows 10 pc, and an Atari STE. If you've got any clue, please share! I'd love to be able to insert some graphics from elsewhere, as replicating them pixel by pixel would be a huge undertaking.
I get that I'll also have to stay to a specific colour palette, but that's fine, as long as I can get it to work. :)

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 2:08 pm
by troed
https://github.com/troed/PNGconv

java -jar PNGconv.jar input.png output.pi1 low

(Writing from memory - plz check against readme)

/Troed

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 2:28 pm
by Orion_
In the "tools" section of my Atari page (bottom of the page) http://onorisoft.free.fr/atari/atari.htm
you can find a set of plugin for Photoshop (or compatible, like XNview, paint shop pro) that can export to different Atari image format (PI1, PC1, PI9, NEO)

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 4:09 pm
by 607
troed wrote:https://github.com/troed/PNGconv

java -jar PNGconv.jar input.png output.pi1 low

(Writing from memory - plz check against readme)

/Troed

Thanks!
I'll try that, although I haven't got too much experience with running stuff like that, but it should be fairly straight-forward.
Orion_ wrote:In the "tools" section of my Atari page (bottom of the page) http://onorisoft.free.fr/atari/atari.htm
you can find a set of plugin for Photoshop (or compatible, like XNview, paint shop pro) that can export to different Atari image format (PI1, PC1, PI9, NEO)

Thanks!
I thought I could write that off right away, as I haven't got Photoshop, but by Googling it seems like it is possible to use some Photoshop plugins in GIMP, through another plugin. I might try that as well. :)

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 3:44 pm
by 607
troed wrote:https://github.com/troed/PNGconv

java -jar PNGconv.jar input.png output.pi1 low

(Writing from memory - plz check against readme)

/Troed

What you say is what the readme says, however, I can't find 'PNGconv.jar' in the downloaded folder. Would you know what I should do?

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 4:10 pm
by dma
You can get the .jar from the releases page: https://github.com/troed/PNGconv/releases

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 4:12 pm
by 607
dma wrote:You can get the .jar from the releases page: https://github.com/troed/PNGconv/releases

Ah, thanks. I'm not very familiar with GitHub.

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 4:18 pm
by 607
dma wrote:You can get the .jar from the releases page: https://github.com/troed/PNGconv/releases

I can't download it, Windows Defender blocks it. :/ I've looked online, and there seems to be an option to make an exception for files, but then you need to select a file, but I can't select it as I haven't downloaded it yet.

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 5:04 pm
by troed
Also I was wrong, you need the add "-header" (without quotation marks) at the end of the command line as well for it to be Degas compatible.

Regarding Windows Defender, sorry I can't help. Currently on a road trip, otherwise I would've zipped a copy for you.

/Troed

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 5:23 pm
by MM41
Try Degas Elite XL http://www.ataritools.fr.gd/

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:14 am
by troed
Here's a link to a zipped copy of the jar, if that helps with Windows Defender: https://troed.ddns.net/f/680d587c83/?dl=1

/Troed

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 5:16 pm
by 607
It worked!
Thanks, guys!
As I had expected, I was having some problems at first, but my troubleshooting went flawlessly! How delightful! :D

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 9:34 am
by simonsunnyboy
Grafx2 can import and export most basic ST file formats such as PI1, PC1 and NEO.

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 10:16 am
by spiny
xnview can save in Degas PI1 format

1: create a pic in your preferred art package on PC
2: save as GIF, 16 colours, 320x200
3: open in xnview, 'save as' PI1
4: copy to ST using floppy, PARCP, network, etc
5: open in Degas, or Neochrome :)

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:58 am
by 607
spiny wrote:3: open in xnview, 'save as' PI1

I can't find PI1. :( It goes from PGF to PIC.

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:49 pm
by xc8
This will solve it:

Options-> General -> Display All Image Filetypes

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:20 pm
by 607
xc8 wrote:This will solve it:

Options-> General -> Display All Image Filetypes

This isn't an option for me. I only see a list of filetypes to save as, and all are selected. I've got XNViewMP, is that the right program?
Otherwise I'll simply try to use the commandline program again, as that worked out last time. :)

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:56 pm
by BoNuS
Take a look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrafX2

http://grafx2.chez.com/index.php?static3/downloads
(choose windows stable version)

I use it as an interface between my ST and PC. Also works great if you are used to the old skool drawing programs...

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:03 pm
by xc8
607 wrote:
xc8 wrote:This will solve it:

Options-> General -> Display All Image Filetypes

This isn't an option for me. I only see a list of filetypes to save as, and all are selected. I've got XNViewMP, is that the right program?
Otherwise I'll simply try to use the commandline program again, as that worked out last time. :)


Well that was the option of Xnview / windoze version (tested under WINE).
On my XnViewMP (linux) the option is :
Settings >> General >> Show All Graphic formats

Then you can open PC*/PI* and Save as PI1 too..

Re: Get images from pc to DEGAS+?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:58 am
by 607
607 wrote:This isn't an option for me. I only see a list of filetypes to save as, and all are selected. I've got XNViewMP, is that the right program?
Otherwise I'll simply try to use the commandline program again, as that worked out last time. :)


Huh, I found it now. It wasn't there when I checked on my laptop... maybe because my laptop's system language is set to Dutch? :confused: Anyway, the option's there now. :P