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.ST browser - plugin for Total Commander

Postby Cyprian » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:57 pm

I've created little plugin for Total Commander. It's name is 'Juliet'.
It's an early version and it can only extract/view files from ST image. I'm thinking about adding MSA and DIM support in next release.
Please try 'Juliet' and give me your feedback.


-2006-10-26-
I've attached new version of Juliet.

Bugs fixed:
- Name's length from 7+3 to 8+3
- Volumie ID anymore shows as file
- Max archive size = 2MB
Features:
- The only valid disk image are accepted (bootsector verification)
- MSA support added (Readonly mode)
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Postby keops » Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:09 pm

I haven't tried it yet but the idea is awesome, it would be amazing to navigate within msa files in Total Commander (the same way it already does it for zip or rar files).

Looking forward to trying it!

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Postby [ProToS] » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:43 pm

wow nice work :D waiting for one wcx like for for longggg time
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Postby leonard » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:22 pm

cool ! I don't use such tools but when I wrote "dir2msa" I'd love to add a working tools such your plugin.

btw, a little bit out of topic (but not too much): Do you know a fast and cool picture viewer on Pc, which can be enanced to read ATARI format such as PC1, SPU, SPC, PI1, NEO, etc ? I personnaly use "Fastone Viewer" (very good tools, freeware, pretty fast) but unfortunatly dones not support plugin developement.
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Postby daeghnao » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:51 pm

leonard wrote:cool ! I don't use such tools but when I wrote "dir2msa" I'd love to add a working tools such your plugin.

btw, a little bit out of topic (but not too much): Do you know a fast and cool picture viewer on Pc, which can be enanced to read ATARI format such as PC1, SPU, SPC, PI1, NEO, etc ? I personnaly use "Fastone Viewer" (very good tools, freeware, pretty fast) but unfortunatly dones not support plugin developement.


I currently use xnview on Linux, I understand it runs on Windows too. No plugin support, but it reads a lot of Atari formats.

http://www.xnview.com/

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Postby ppera » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:45 pm

Nice idea!

I made quick test, and found that some files appear twice in their directorium. There are different sizes, and I see that size of wrong named file is not correct.
If you need that image (which is errorless), I will post it...

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Postby zorg » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:13 am

Leonard,

you can use MSA converter to see your pics directly from the disk images or from the hard disk. Just right-clik on them..

Supported formats:
// *.NEO - Neochrome & Neochrome Master - 320 x 200 x 16 couleurs
// *.PI1 - Degas & Degas Elite - 320 x 200 x 16 couleurs
// *.PI2 - Degas & Degas Elite - 640 x 200 x 4 couleurs
// *.PI3 - Degas & Degas Elite - 640 x 400 x 2 couleurs
// *.PC1 - Degas & Degas Elite compressée - 320 x 200 x 16 couleurs
// *.PC2 - Degas & Degas Elite compressée - 640 x 200 x 4 couleurs
// *.PC3 - Degas & Degas Elite compressée - 640 x 400 x 2 couleurs
// *.SPU - Spectrum 512 - 320 x 199 x 512 couleurs
// *.SPC - Spectrum 512 compressée - 320 x 199 x 512 couleurs
// *.SPS - Spectrum 512 smooshed - 320 x 199 x 512 couleurs
// *.ART - Art Director - 320 x 200 x 16 couleurs
// *.TNY - Tiny
// *.TN1 - Tiny - 320 x 200 x 16 couleurs
// *.TN2 - Tiny - 640 x 200 x 4 couleurs
// *.TN3 - Tiny - 640 x 400 x 2 couleurs
// *.DOO - Doodle - 640 x 400 x 2 couleurs
// *.MUR - C.O.L.R. Object Editor Mural - 320 x 200 x 16 couleurs

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Postby Cyprian » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:15 pm

Hi All,
thanks for yours positive feedback. It's motivating me to work on Juliet :)
I'm finishing MSA files support, now.

Ppera could you please share this image? I'd like to check it.

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Postby Lautreamont » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:20 pm

leonard wrote:Do you know a fast and cool picture viewer on Pc, which can be enanced to read ATARI format such as PC1, SPU, SPC, PI1, NEO, etc ? I personnaly use "Fastone Viewer" (very good tools, freeware, pretty fast) but unfortunatly dones not support plugin developement.


Gimp (http://www.gimp.org/) of course.
It already supports at least Degas Elite and Neochrome.
Write your plugins in C, Perl, Python, the builtin macro processor etc...

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Postby simonsunnyboy » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:32 pm

Lautreamont wrote:Gimp (http://www.gimp.org/) of course.
It already supports at least Degas Elite and Neochrome.
Write your plugins in C, Perl, Python, the builtin macro processor etc...


The Gimp rules but sofar I haven't found *working* plugins. Most didn't compile or work for me.
Can you give a pointer where to find working plugins for atleast .PI1 and .NEO?
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Postby keops » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:08 pm

MSA support? Rules! Looking forward to it even more :)

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Postby ppera » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:30 pm

Here is the image. Problem arrives in first 2 subdir.
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Postby Lautreamont » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:59 pm

simonsunnyboy wrote:The Gimp rules but sofar I haven't found *working* plugins. Most didn't compile or work for me.
Can you give a pointer where to find working plugins for atleast .PI1 and .NEO?


I use the Degas and Neochrome plugins found on the official "Gimp Plug-In Registry" on my Linux / Gimp 2.2 machine:
http://registry.gimp.org/index.jsp. Search "Atari ST" on that page.

I compiled them a long time ago and don't remember any problem. Just use the script "gimptool" provided by the Gimp package to do them.

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Postby Cyprian » Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:34 pm

I've attached new version of Juliet.

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=76006#76006

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Postby [ProToS] » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:58 pm

thanks fot the update :)
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Postby Strider » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:27 pm

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Postby keops » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:32 pm

Really cool .msa support!

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Postby StanZ » Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:15 pm

Great job Cyprian_K! Thanks!

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Postby jd » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:17 am

Any further devlelopment on this addin?

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Postby Cyprian » Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:23 pm

probably next version, with writing support, should be available in this year.
it depends on my free time

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Re: .ST browser - plugin for Total Commander

Postby DrCoolZic » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:16 am

Any update? :)

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Re: .ST browser - plugin for Total Commander

Postby Cyprian » Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:28 pm

good question.
Unfortunately, sometimes ago my hard-disk crashed and I lost source code. Maybe it's a good time to rewrite it from a scratch.

Funny thing is that a few years before, I also had a hard-disk crash and I had lost another app Tager.
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Re: .ST browser - plugin for Total Commander

Postby DrCoolZic » Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:42 pm

I am actually looking for a way to copy files from a Windows directory to an "Atari directory"
By Atari directory I mean a directory where all Atari non supported files/directories (for example long file name, special system directories, etc) would be removed.
So you would create an "Atari" clean directory
I am not familiar with Total Commader and plugin but I think this should be feasible? But have no idea how difficult

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Re: .ST browser - plugin for Total Commander

Postby AtariZoll » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:22 pm

When you create an directory in Windows, using only 8.3 filename, capital letters it will be "Atari directory" .
Then, you can avoid creation/copy of long filenames if set properly Total Commander: Options, Display, uncheck "Use long names" - then it will copy everything with 8.3 names on target. Can easily remove or rename existing LFN files and directories + system DIRs like Recycle bin etc.
But because of Windows floppy driver restrictions, you can not access Atari floppies, at least not all formats.
Then you may use my FloImg, what basically does same as this plugin - only that usage is little different.
And similar tool for hard disks is Drive Imager - most useful with not DOS compatible partitions.

It is possible to make Total Commander plugins for direct access of Atari floppies and not only images, using Simon Owen's Fdrawcmd - only with internal floppy disk drive, what becomes rare thing on newer PCs. And for hard disk type medias too, what has more perspective. Of course, things are much simpler with TOS/DOS compatible partitioning. Too bad that we can not make Atari floppies Windows compatible :mrgreen:
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Re: .ST browser - plugin for Total Commander

Postby DrCoolZic » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:30 pm

AtariZoll wrote:When you create an directory in Windows, using only 8.3 filename, capital letters it will be "Atari directory" .
Then, you can avoid creation/copy of long filenames if set properly Total Commander: Options, Display, uncheck "Use long names" - then it will copy everything with 8.3 names on target. Can easily remove or rename existing LFN files and directories + system DIRs like Recycle bin etc.
But because of Windows floppy driver restrictions, you can not access Atari floppies, at least not all formats.
Then you may use my FloImg, what basically does same as this plugin - only that usage is little different.
And similar tool for hard disks is Drive Imager - most useful with not DOS compatible partitions.

It is possible to make Total Commander plugins for direct access of Atari floppies and not only images, using Simon Owen's Fdrawcmd - only with internal floppy disk drive, what becomes rare thing on newer PCs. And for hard disk type medias too, what has more perspective. Of course, things are much simpler with TOS/DOS compatible partitioning. Too bad that we can not make Atari floppies Windows compatible :mrgreen:


Interesting I am actually totally ignorant of capabilities of Total Commander.
I am not sure why you are talking about floppies?
Again what I would like to do is to make a copy of a "dirty dos directory" to a "clean Atari directory"
Currently if you copy on a SD card (for example plugged with UltraSatan) a DOS directory that contains for example long file name in best case you have ugly thing displayed and in worst case it just crash TOS ...


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