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LST -> GFA

Postby tobe » Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:02 pm

Hi

I found this tool on the web, it convert *.LST to *.GFA for GFABASIC v3.x
I've test it for Roger2000, it works fine.

For automatic inlining you need to give the same name to the file and the variable, ex :

INLINE foo%, 1024
--> FOO.INL

To convert a LST file, you can drag it on LST2GFA.TTP or run the TTP and give the LST name on the command line. It accept path in the file name.

Of course, ppl using the GFA editor don't need this, but i use to code under XP with Context and Steem and this tool allow to batch the compilation under Steem ;)

edit : i have removed the attachement, please read below
Last edited by tobe on Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:44 pm, edited 2 times in total.
step 1: introduce bug, step 2: fix bug, step 3: goto step 1.

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Postby GokMasE » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:06 pm

You *really* need to start checking out the readme-files!!

--- snip ---
NOTE: This software cannot be sold.
This software cannot be placed on ftp sites.
This software cannot be placed on web sites.
This software cannot be placed on CD-ROM.
This software cannot be re-distributed in any way whatsoever!

Theses are the wishes of the author so please respect them!!

- if a duplicate *.gfa file exists in the same path, it's renamed *.bak

eof
--- end snip ---


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Postby tobe » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:18 pm

i've read it, thanks.
step 1: introduce bug, step 2: fix bug, step 3: goto step 1.

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Postby GokMasE » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:20 pm

So you just don't care then?

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Postby tobe » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:04 pm

Here it is, i severly punished myself.

I found this app on the web, and i think it's too important to be lost.
I'm sorry for the author, but it's strange to put this kind of readme file if it's not intended to be distributed isn't it ?

Ok, next time i will put this on a menu disc with a nice cracktro...
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Postby GokMasE » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:15 pm

Linking to the site that hosts this file would have done the trick, don't you think?

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Postby tobe » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:21 pm

The reason of the readme file is here :
http://www.stcarchiv.de/stc2001/09_ataquarium.php

and the web source is here :
http://www.bright.net/~gfabasic

already 10 downloads, so ithink it's a good idea to put it here, and after reading the starchiv article, i think it's right.
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Postby Silver Surfer » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:26 pm

Here is the link to the file http://www.bright.net/~gfabasic/files/lst2gfa.zip

edit -> was somewhat unpolite when I wrote the message.... edited now.

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Postby GokMasE » Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:12 pm

tobe wrote:The reason of the readme file is here :
already 10 downloads, so ithink it's a good idea to put it here, and after reading the starchiv article, i think it's right.


Even though you may have good intentions, it is not right unless the author gave you permission to do this. It is not your choice to make at all really.

The attitude of applying your own rules when the valid ones does not appeal to you, is quite disrespectful. If we were talking about old software from way back where the author cannot be located anymore, things might be different though. That is not the case here.

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Postby lp » Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:22 pm

Silver Surfer wrote:Here is the link to the file http://www.bright.net/~gfabasic/files/lst2gfa.zip

edit -> was somewhat unpolite when I wrote the message.... edited now.


Well I am glad people find the stuff useful. This particular program was written for me by someone else, and the instructions in the archive were put there at his request. To be honest I don't neccessarily agree, but I honor his wishes regardless and hope that everyone else will too.

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Postby Silver Surfer » Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:22 pm

Could anyone enlighten me about the reasons of this quite strange readme file? I'm afraid I don't understand german at all. At first the rules of this pack seem so dumb all you can really do is laugh but I suppose there might be a good reason to it after all.

Anyone?

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Postby tobe » Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:25 pm

It seems it use ripped code from the interpreter.

If anyone can pm me the mail of the author i will be happy to contact him.
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Postby Silver Surfer » Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:27 pm

lp wrote:
Silver Surfer wrote:Here is the link to the file http://www.bright.net/~gfabasic/files/lst2gfa.zip

edit -> was somewhat unpolite when I wrote the message.... edited now.


Well I am glad people find the stuff useful. This particular program was written for me by someone else, and the instructions in the archive were put there at his request. To be honest I don't neccessarily agree, but I honor his wishes regardless and hope that everyone else will too.

Lonny Pursell


Hey! :)

Thanks for coming here. :)

Would you care to elaborate a little more? I'm curious as to why someone would want to make restrictions like this. It's not like these restrictions in anyway is helpful for the few coders left on our platform. :cry:

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Postby lp » Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:53 pm

tobe wrote:It seems it use ripped code from the interpreter.

If anyone can pm me the mail of the author i will be happy to contact him.


I will address both posts in this one reply. Well the "contest" I held didn't turn out quite as I had hoped. You are correct the TTP is a hack, and it was the only submission that met my requirements. Unfortunately the methods used to make it always lead to problems. Some care about copyright issues on old stuff, some don't, etc.. it's always a gray area. Anyway, I effectively purchased the source code and the orginal author does not want to be bothered with it. He did his job, got paid, moved on. So in effect you have reached the author so to speak. What can I help you with?

The original author also is a bit on the paranoid side, hense the non-distribution instructions and so on.

I have been thinking about releasing an update of my own without the restrictions since GFA seems to be officially dead and gone now. Just never get around to it, to much going one at once.

I have had a password here for a while, although it was so old I forgot it and had to have it mailed to me. ;-)

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Postby tobe » Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:04 pm

So in effect you have reached the author so to speak. What can I help you with?

As i can donwload this tool from your web site, it is a problem to put it here for sharing with the few GFA coders still in activity ?
It is possible to access the source code :oops: ?
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Postby lp » Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:27 pm

tobe wrote:
So in effect you have reached the author so to speak. What can I help you with?

As i can donwload this tool from your web site, it is a problem to put it here for sharing with the few GFA coders still in activity ?
It is possible to access the source code :oops: ?


I agreed to the authors terms, he granted me exclusive distribution.
I don't care if you put links, but he was very clear about re-distribution.
As for the source, I also agreed to not release it.
If you have a bug report or feature request, that can possibily be taken care of. Or as I stated before, I started a new one with more options, but never got it finished/released yet.

FYI, the starchive article is wrong, it does do full syntax checking, but obviously since the editor part is gone you have no chance to correct them before the compiler gets hold of it. ;)

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Postby Silver Surfer » Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:36 pm

lp wrote:I will address both posts in this one reply. Well the "contest" I held didn't turn out quite as I had hoped. You are correct the TTP is a hack, and it was the only submission that met my requirements. Unfortunately the methods used to make it always lead to problems. Some care about copyright issues on old stuff, some don't, etc.. it's always a gray area. Anyway, I effectively purchased the source code and the orginal author does not want to be bothered with it. He did his job, got paid, moved on. So in effect you have reached the author so to speak. What can I help you with?


I hear what you're saying, I was going to ramble on here for a while but I'll refrain myself... Serves no purpose really. Suffice to say, I don't really agree.

lp wrote:I have been thinking about releasing an update of my own without the restrictions since GFA seems to be officially dead and gone now. Just never get around to it, to much going one at once.


Now that is some nice news. Please keep us updated. :)

lp wrote:I have had a password here for a while, although it was so old I forgot it and had to have it mailed to me. ;-)


Don't be a stranger, please visit more often! :)

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Postby tobe » Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:42 pm

Thanks for the precisions, i have removed the attachement, ppl will dl it from your website.
I didn't make the difference between distribution and re-distribution ;)

As i said i use to code on my pc (mainly because i can do other things at the same time, play action games when i just introduced a new bug, i only use my STE to test and in partys) and it would be nice to have a tool-suite to convert the LST i wrote directly to PRG.

I hope you will release the new version soon, we really need it, at a point i'm ready to break rules :wink: !
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Postby lp » Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:51 pm

tobe wrote:Thanks for the precisions, i have removed the attachement, ppl will dl it from your website.
I didn't make the difference between distribution and re-distribution ;)

As i said i use to code on my pc (mainly because i can do other things at the same time, play action games when i just introduced a new bug, i only use my STE to test and in partys) and it would be nice to have a tool-suite to convert the LST i wrote directly to PRG.

I hope you will release the new version soon, we really need it, at a point i'm ready to break rules :wink: !


Thanks for honoring the instructions in the archive. As I said, I also don't fully agree with his orignal wishes but I honor them. I view that as his work so his wishes are cast apon it.

My updated one will also spit out a LST if passed a token file, so it works both directions and I corrected long file name handling under MiNT. I shall put this back on my todo list. Honestly I didn't think anyone really used it so it ended up off the list one day. ;-)

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Postby tobe » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:04 pm

There's more and more GFA coders every day :D !
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Re: LST -> GFA

Postby Tomchi » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:59 am

Any chance i can find this one ?
Browsing without result ...
Thx in advance :)

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Re: LST -> GFA

Postby charles » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:10 am

its on lonnys site? dev-org or something like that?
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