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Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby advfan » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:36 pm

Hi,

I'm a member of the Atarimania site and try to contibute by buying ST and XL titles so that they can be converted to Pasti and VAPI respectively. Recently I bought 8 games (Amazing Spiderman, Snowstrike, Interphase, Test Drive 2 European Challenge, Rotox, Star-Blaze, Spherical and Mean Streets) that have been sent to Marakatti and will be posted soon on the website.

I noticed that there other members from this forum (MugUK, Klapauzius, thorsten_guenther, simonsunnyboy, etc) that from time to time do also post Pastis.
My main suggestion was to find out if there is a way to coordinate which Pastis should be the next ones to be converted. I do look at Atarimania's own list to see what we have available and don't, and then do my search for good offers on Ebay.

However, sometimes some of these titles may be already in possession of another member and instead of buying something that someone else could convert, that money could be used to buy titles that no one has.

For example, for titles starting with 0-9, these are the titles that I look for on Ebay: (10th Frame (non-dongle edition), 221B Baker Street and 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (english)). Should I continue and post the titles we are looking for for the rest of the alphabet, so that people may give priority to convert them or should I post a list of items I have in my watch list so that if someone else has it, I can concentrate on other items?

Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. Mine is just an idea to help speed up the preservation of titles and open to criticism.

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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Mug UK » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:55 pm

The most recent list of my originals is buried on this forum somewhere .. I've stopped collecting as it's just got out of hand. I just want my flat back with some empty room to set-up the Jaguar, Jap Saturn, USA N64, C64, Spectrum & Amiga 4000 instead of them gathering dust on a shelf :)

Suffice to say that I've struck a deal with some good friends who will, in batches, take the bulk load of my 1300+ titles out of my hands as and when I've scanned & PASTIed them and they're then free to sell them on.

I'd post your list in the PASTI Images thread and, as and when they're found and PASTIed up, cross them off the list?

I've got originals of 221B and 10th Frame (not sure about the dongle option though) lying around the flat.
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Marakatti » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:55 pm

I agree that this would be a good time to centralize the Pasti-work for one place. Ijor has written some superb tools which are making the preservation possible after these years so it would be mad to miss the oppurtinity to save our precious software.

I also suggest that it would be a good idea to have the list right here on Atari-Forum for what has been done and what is still needed. Most of the active ST-people visit here and Klaz has been maintaining one very big and great list, which I think is a good starting point. But it would be nice to have it on-line here so it could be edited when necessary without any downloading/editing/uploading stuff.

Another problem is that someone might have done the pasti, it's already listed, but we don't have access to it. There's been lately a lot of pasti-images posted here which is a very promising move. I think it works very well as long as this forum is up and running. Bigger amount of files can still be uploaded to our FTP.

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We've added a new searchable field for the database which indicates the format of download to make it easier to see what's already done. It will just take some time to check all the downloads and attach the specific filetype for them. I think it's done in a week or two depending how much the kids need me ;)
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Marakatti » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:07 pm

We now have a list of what pasti-files has been converted and uploaded to Atarimania. I've manually edited our 738 records that offers pasti dump (and ladies and gentlemen, it was so much fun!) so I hope it helps a bit to see what has been converted and what still needs to be done.

I still have quite a few pasti-files from contributors from this forum and other sources which are not yet uploaded but they appear shortly. Also lists to other formats (MSA, ST...) will be available soon.

Here's the link -> http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_at ... 1_S_G.html
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby advfan » Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:21 pm

Small update: The following games have been bought by Atarimania and if they do work properly, will be converted into Pasti and posted by Marakatti. It may take a couple of weeks as the packages first have to arrive. :)

Beast Lord, Wetten dass, Metropolis, Realms, Borodino, Quest for Adventure (compilation that contains Operation Stealth, Indiana Jones and Mean Streets), Voyager, Tower of Babel, Greg Norman's Ultimate Golf, Phantasm and Impossamole.

So no need for others to convert the above mentioned.

I have also included an excel file (still a Work In Progress) and incomplete (so far only from # to E) with pastis that Atarimania is still looking for.
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Maartau » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:40 pm

@Marakatti & Adfan : cheers for your help :thumbs: .

I don't collect thngs for having them, but they're useful is our quest for fixing games - checking with cracked ones [smilie=greencolorz4_pdt_01.gif] .

"I/we often got surprises about bad *.MSA converted, like this we get more chances to fix the cracked oldies : comparing files is very important :D ".

For a game player, I guess he prefers a full clean version (and sometimes better trained :wink: ).

Thanks really precious & I enjoy the presentation work on that page :D .

Anyway, that is to write a warm thanks 8) .

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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Maartau » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:45 pm

I was quite disappointed when testing old cracks & saw they're were bad cracked, GFX bugged, or simply sectors destructed :( .

:cheers: For all mate !

P.s; if you get more STX sources, you're more than welcome 8) .

Keep up the good work mate !

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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Marakatti » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:51 am

Thanks, we will continue our quest to convert as many titles as possible. Once Advfan's list is done, we will start to convert more of our own originals. We just need to wait a bit so we can focus on the ones that are not yet converted.

Again big thanks to everyone who are supporting our project, it's absolutely fantastic source of motivation :cheers:
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Maartau » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:48 am

Marakatti wrote:Thanks, we will continue our quest to convert as many titles as possible. Once Advfan's list is done, we will start to convert more of our own originals. We just need to wait a bit so we can focus on the ones that are not yet converted.

Again big thanks to everyone who are supporting our project, it's absolutely fantastic source of motivation :cheers:


Great job :thumbs: !

In some cases, some cracks from (no name) aren't done completly or not done at all, like this, it will permits us to do/redo few of them & 100% running/not bugged :D .

Even having no more real HW, I can continue : again another :cheers: .

You've got all my support :D .

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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Maartau » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:50 am

Hi everyone 8) ,

After having a look at the missing STX list, I'll have a look in my messy STX ... Maybe could I found few ones ?
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby advfan » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:19 pm

Hi Maartau and thanks for your help.

I have updated my list (up to the letter I).
I think we have most of the Pastis that have been published so far. My list is especially made for the people that have the ability to convert disks to the pasti format to see what yet remains unconverted.
I needed to do this list to avoid buying stuff twice. In the latest bunch that Marakatti will convert, I noticed that I bough Impossamole and that is a game that already exists as a pasti file. Aaargh! That money could have gone into purchasing another game. :x
There's still so much that needs to be preserved.
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Jake/Depression » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:57 pm

I had original A.M.C. (Astro Marine Corps).

Edit: And Original Frost Byte disk by Prism Leisure Corporation. (Disk only, no box.)
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby advfan » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:13 pm

Another list update. Now up to letter M.
Please notice that some of the titles that I mentioned that were bought and sent to Marakatti are stil on the list as titles won't be removed until the stx has been done. Disks can get lost in the mail, not work anymore, etc. and I prefer not to remove any titles until we have 100% proof that we got it.

To Jake: Can you make stx of those titles? Any help is really greatly appreciated.
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Maartau » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:30 pm

You can find Monster Business here, thanks to dlfrsilver 8) .

download/file.php?id=15172

P.s ; this upload is a part of the "Klapauzius.net is online" thread. :cheers:
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby advfan » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:42 pm

Thanks for the info, Maartau. :D

The info has been updated in the list above.

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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Jake/Depression » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:18 pm

Yes, i can made these pastis someday, but now I´m moving some of my Atari thing from my home to my house these days, so i maybe can made these pastis after 2 weeks.

I had original Loom. (I´m send some scans (cassette and some other scans) already and they are in Atarimania. I need to made more sometime.) I can made pasti too for this.

Byteway. I send some St and XL/XE scans in FTP.
Turbolink XL/XE for ST - german, ComputerEyes - english and Supercharger dos emulator - german (Only 1 book. Other book i made some other time.)

Edit: I send some Loom scans just in Ftp. (It is little manual. "Book of patterns" manual not are yet scanned.) Backside of Loom box is hard to scan. Colors not goming just right in my scanner.
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby advfan » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:52 pm

Updated to letter R.

Next update may take a little longer as precisely the letters S and T make the bulk of the Atari ST games. Gulp! 8O
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Maartau » Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:48 pm

advfan wrote:Updated to letter R.

Next update may take a little longer as precisely the letters S and T make the bulk of the Atari ST games. Gulp! 8O


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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby nativ » Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:25 pm

This XLS is all the files you are still after?

I have

Power Drift
Psyborg

I might have Magic Boy...

Lemmings 2

Journey to the Centre of the Earth

Gridrunner
H.A.T.E. Both budget editions

Elvira - Mistress of the Dark
Elvira - The Arcade Game
I think....


Footballer of the Year 2
Chase HQ II

Apache Flight


Crazy Cars
Bombjack
Enduro Racer Atari Power Pack

Where is this PASTI software? Will it run on the Falcon?

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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Maartau » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:08 am

nativ wrote:Where is this PASTI software? Will it run on the Falcon?


Hi Nativ :) ,

http://pasti.fxatari.com/

Sadly, isn't compatible with Falcy :( .

Requires any ST,STe, Mega ST or Mega STe computer with at least one double sided disk drive. Is not
compatible with TT or Falcon computers. One Megabyte RAM recommended. Hard disk is optional.
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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Maartau » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:10 am

Advfan, have you looked at those links (I guess :) ).

http://atari.hable.net/pasti/

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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby nativ » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:38 am

Can you convert Pasti to MSA / Msa to Pasti?

I have a large hard drive on the Falcon, which just makes things easier!


I guess I can set up LittleNet any way and jump them over.


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Re: Coordination for/when making Pastis

Postby Maartau » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:49 am

nativ wrote:Can you convert Pasti to MSA / Msa to Pasti?


Pasti remains the most convenient format to save a whole disk : from the "easiest" copylocked Rob Northen to change disk format (Vroom, Maupiti, ..., Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, ...).

STX can be converted to MSA, but you'll maybe miss some datas : sometimes disk infos are voluntary modifed -> if you use Fastcopy Pro in using "read params on" / the game can be on 2 sides while it was write 1 side :) . I found many MSA disks saved like this: sometimes 2nde side is used for digit ; on the other hand, few datas can be saved from track 70 to 78 on the 2nde one, while the first can contain data from 0 to 69 :) .
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Postby nativ » Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:20 am

Well I am thinking of slapping a 1.44 and TOS 2.06 in an STe. I guess Pasti will work with that setup?

I have STe and Falcon and an STFM somewhere! woo!
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Postby nativ » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:03 am

I have used Medway boys copier to copy a protected Chase HQ 1 before that was Rob Northern too.

Once I decide which machine to use I get on with some PASTI-ing.
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