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Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Tronic » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:41 am

why do i bother...
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Brume » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:54 am

Thanks for sharing :)
But I can't open the disks.
What format have you used to convert them? I'm at the office, so I don't have access to my usual tools, but Steem, jaymsa or MSAConverter refuse to open the MSA disks :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Tronic » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:00 pm

why do i bother...
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Brume » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:01 pm

Strange, so it should work perfectly... Have you tried the MSA files on an emulator?

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Tronic » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:02 pm

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Brume » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:05 pm

Thanks in advance, Tronic :)
Also could someone else confirm the files work (or not)? I won't be able to investigate before tonight.

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby spiny » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:07 pm

I can't get any of the .MSA files to work in STEEM either - alos I tried wrting a few back to sisk using MSA, but although the files appear on the disk, I get TOS Error when trying to run any of the PRGs.

I'll try some on my actual atari in a sec, got some work to do first though :D

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Marcer » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:52 pm

They are ICE packed.. :)
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Tronic » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:57 pm

Marcer wrote:They are ICE packed.. :)


How?! I didnt pack them and just used MSA 2.23 as usual.....I did put COMPRESSION ON, but then I always do and have not had problems before.
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Marcer » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:14 pm

Wierd.. well Im doing un-msa in emu.. not so well working.. so all files end up duff.. I pmed you about another tool which is more stable
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby catmando » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:34 pm

files didn't work for me either
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Tronic » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:37 pm

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Marcer » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:57 pm

tried the files in Hatari, crashed.

then tried Saint.. works. but i think the images isnt really proper. so an re-image is a good idea anyhow.

not sure why this msa 2.3 etc got popular as its not way close as good as old msa 1.41 (shadow).
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Tronic » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:58 pm

Marcer wrote:tried the files in Hatari, crashed.

then tried Saint.. works. but i think the images isnt really proper. so an re-image is a good idea anyhow.

not sure why this msa 2.3 etc got popular as its not way close as good as old msa 1.41 (shadow).


*Really* annoying....... :(
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Brume » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:01 pm

Thanks for your effort, mates :)

Also it convinces me that FastCopy is still the best tool to image disks (then convert the .DIM files with MSAConverter).

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby lotek_style » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:42 pm

The file is down again?
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Brume » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:53 pm

lotek_style wrote:The file is down again?

All MSA disks were corrupted, so Tronic have removed them.
Now we're waiting for a new dump ;)

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby catmando » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:39 pm

Any joy reimaging these?
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Tronic » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:20 pm

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Tronic » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:02 am

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby simonsunnyboy » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:30 am

Something strange is going on here -- none of the disks in the ZIp above boot at all in Hatari.

Maybe you should try imaging from a different floppy drive?
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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby Brume » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:40 am

Sorry to say, but files are corrupted, once again :|

On your configuration, something corrupts the data during the transfer.

Can you do me a favour? May I ask to image one disk only without compression?

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Re: Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby npomarede » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:46 am

simonsunnyboy wrote:Something strange is going on here -- none of the disks in the ZIp above boot at all in Hatari.

Maybe you should try imaging from a different floppy drive?

Just cheked TST_44.MSA for example. File starts with :

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00000000  3d dc 15 f9 e1 f9 fa 00  1b fd 87 8e 19 8e 06 70  |=Ü.ùáùú..ý.....p|
00000010  19 ff c0 21 c4 02 81 e0  43 40 08 28 1c 79 18 06  |.ÿÀ!Ä..àC@.(.y..|
00000020  e0 06 f0 00 11 83 07 9f  c6 07 d5 83 01 c9 40 38  |à.ð.....Æ.Õ..É@8|


This is not correct, MSA usually starts with a header "0E 0F" (at least, that's what Hatari expects).
What version of MSA did you use ? Maybe try an older one, this one seems to compress data with something else than RLE (or there was a problem when you transferred the file from your ST to your PC)

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Rare disk images, plus BBC 6!

Postby catmando » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:17 pm

Why not just use the pasti image tool, more straightforward to use.
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