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STe Enhanced or STe Only Games - GBST List

Postby Goldrunner » Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:36 am

I thought it might be of interest to post a list of the STe Enhanced and STe Only games we have so far added to GamebaseST. From the start we have dwelved into game documentation and tested each game for obvious STE enhancements, this list is the result to date. I will be posting updates to this list every now and then:

C:\Program Files\GameBase\GBST v0.6\GBST v0.6.mdb

STe Enhanced or STe Only Games (36)

Alien Blast STe Only
Chambers of Shaolin STe Enhanced
Chaos Engine STe Enhanced
Dynabusters+ STe Only
Esprit STe Enhanced
Frantick STe Enhanced
Goal! STe Enhanced
Gods STe Enhanced
H Mec 2 STe Only
James Pond STe Enhanced
James Pond II (Robocod) STe Enhanced
Leavin' Teramis STe Enhanced
Lethal Xcess STe Enhanced
Magic Boy STe Enhanced
Obsession STe Only
Oh No! Not More Radioactive Mineshafts STe Only
Pacman on E's STe Enhanced
Power Up plus STe Enhanced
Revenge of the Mutant Camels STe Enhanced
Rock 'n' Roll Clams STe Enhanced
Roger STe Enhanced
Sheer Agony STe Enhanced
Sleepwalker STe Only
Square Off STe Only
Starball STe Only
Stardust STe Enhanced
Stone Age STe Enhanced
Street Fighter II (Demo) STe Only
Substation STe Only
Team STe Only
Vaxine STe Enhanced
Wings of Death STe Enhanced
Wrath of the Demon STe Enhanced
Zero 5 STe Only
Zool STe Enhanced
Zool (Demo) STe Enhanced
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Postby Goldrunner » Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:39 am

Update of STe Enhanced or STe Only Games from GamebaseST

C:\Program Files\GameBase\GBST v1.2b\GBST v1.2b.mdb

STe Enhanced or STe Only Games (61)

Alien Blast STe Only
Alien Thing STe Enhanced
Alien Thing - Expert Edition STe Enhanced
Alien Thing - The Directors Cut (Demo) STe Enhanced
Ancient Art of War in the Skies, The STe Enhanced
Asteroidia STe Enhanced
Battletris STe Enhanced
Battletris+ STe Enhanced
Cannon Fodder 2 STe Enhanced
Captive STe Enhanced
Chambers of Shaolin STe Enhanced
Chaos Engine STe Enhanced
Chronicles of Omega, The STe Enhanced
Chu Chu Rocket STe Only
Destruction Imminent STe Enhanced
Dynabusters+ STe Only
Esprit STe Enhanced
Frantick STe Enhanced
Goal! STe Enhanced
GodPey STe Enhanced
Gods STe Enhanced
H Mec 2 STe Only
Italy 1990 STe Enhanced
James Pond STe Enhanced
James Pond II (Robocod) STe Enhanced
Leavin' Teramis STe Enhanced
Lethal Xcess STe Enhanced
Magic Boy STe Enhanced
Magic Fly STe Enhanced
Manga Puzzle STe Only
Moonwalker STe Only
Obsession STe Only
Oh No! Not More Radioactive Mineshafts STe Only
Operation Garfield STe Enhanced
Pacman on E's STe Enhanced
Pacmen STe Enhanced
Penta STe Enhanced
Power Up plus STe Enhanced
Revenge of the Mutant Camels STe Enhanced
Robocop 3 STe Enhanced
Rock 'n' Roll Clams STe Enhanced
Roger STe Enhanced
Sheer Agony STe Enhanced
Sleepwalker STe Only
Square Off STe Only
Starball STe Only
Stardust STe Enhanced
Stone Age STe Enhanced
Street Fighter II (Demo) STe Only
Substation STe Only
Suspicious Cargo STe Only
Team STe Only
Ultimate Arena, The STe Enhanced
Utopos STe Only
Vaxine STe Enhanced
Venus The Flytrap STe Enhanced
Wings of Death STe Enhanced
Wrath of the Demon STe Enhanced
Zero 5 STe Only
Zool STe Enhanced
Zool (Demo) STe Enhanced

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Postby Marcer » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:45 am

Hi Goldrunner

These two games... Are not STE games..
Moonwalker, was made even before STe was born..
Suspicious Cargo, is also a ST game.. perhaps STE xtra is used. But I wouldnt be supriced if the Ste xtras isnt used in the game.

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Suspicious Cargo STe Only


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Postby Goldrunner » Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:32 pm

Whoops :oops:, two silly errors, thanks for pointing them out Marcer!

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Postby ST Graveyard » Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:27 pm

Goldrunner,

You can use the search of AL for STE only, enhanced games. You probably knew this, but I'm just telling cause the AL output list has more entries. This might help you as well to prevent mistakes.

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Postby Goldrunner » Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:44 pm

The list only represents what is in GamebaseST at the moment, it will not be complete until every game is in GamebaseST. I find Atari Legend's list incredably useful along with the Atar STE Fanpage for finding what is STE only or STE enhanced (sometimes its virtually impossible to tell). I also go through a games documenation when available and sometimes even a game boxscan will say. Even so, there is probably a few everyone has missed, probably only the STE Enhanced ones!

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Postby Womble » Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:34 pm

Brimey - its no surprise that the STE wasnt a "killer platform", there aint many games that call for one. Did atari pull the plug on the STFMs before they started selling STEs or were both concurrently in production? I assume after they killed the FMs forcing ST buying folk to buy STEs, its not like you got much more for your money tho.

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Postby Goldrunner » Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:57 pm

Womble, the above list is not a complete :!: You should try the Atari Legend website for a comprehensive list of STE or STE enhanced games. The ones here are only the ones currently in GamebaseST.

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Fire and Ice

Postby jamesrc » Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:30 pm

One missing from the list. Fire and Ice is STe enhanced. The only difference is that there's a smother gradient on the sky in the background, but it's an STe enhancement, nonetheless.

It's also not listed as enhanced in the Atari Legend database.

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Postby Goldrunner » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:56 pm

Hi Jamesrc

Never realised about Fire and Ice so many thanks for letting me know!

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Postby ST Graveyard » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:11 pm

Are you sure about that? I've only played the game on an STe, but I never knew it was STe enhanced...
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Postby jamesrc » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:00 pm

ST Graveyard wrote:Are you sure about that? I've only played the game on an STe, but I never knew it was STe enhanced...


Absolutely. I was a lowly STFM owner when I purchased the game... I took it round to a friend's house and immediately pointed at the sky and said "There are more colours, there!".

Then I bought an STe. (Although not for a few more colours in the Fire & Ice sky).

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Postby Marcer » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:14 pm

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Re: Fire and Ice

Postby insanity » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:40 pm

jamesrc wrote:One missing from the list. Fire and Ice is STe enhanced. The only difference is that there's a smother gradient on the sky in the background, but it's an STe enhancement, nonetheless.

It's also not listed as enhanced in the Atari Legend database.


It would be great to see pictures of the STFM and STE side-by-side for this and other enhanced games actually! Anyone done that... ?

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Postby Marcer » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:31 pm

Keep, in mind.. some STE xtras may only be the sounds.. DMA used..
or Blitter, or Hardware scroll.. not always colour changes..

these things wont be noticed by pictures.. Where i also think i may missed some titles here and there who are STe Enchanted.. (while i tested and uploaded PD games..)

btw.. there is now 905 Downloads online at Atari Legend.. (PD/SW games)..

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Postby Goldrunner » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:40 pm

I have just taken at look at Fire and Ice and it has very nice gradients for the sea and control panel but non for the sky, but it could still be a standard ST game with a very well chosen palette.

The sky itself is one block of colour unlike what Jamesrc suggests, was there another version made?

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Postby jamesrc » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:53 pm

Goldrunner wrote:I have just taken at look at Fire and Ice and it has very nice gradients for the sea and control panel but non for the sky, but it could still be a standard ST game with a very well chosen palette.

The sky itself is one block of colour unlike what Jamesrc suggests, was there another version made?


I just looked at some screenshots.

Yes, it's the sea gradient that I'm referring to.

It's enhanced on the STe.

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Postby Goldrunner » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:19 pm

I am inclined to agree that this game is STE enhanced since the sea is using 12 shades of blue all on its own, surely there is a bit too much colour in this game to be a standard ST game. Please see attached magnified screenshot of Fire and Ice:
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Postby ST Graveyard » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:31 pm

Well, it still is pretty pale compared to the amoeba version :
http://www.lemonamiga.com/?mainurl=http ... Fid%3D1749
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Postby Goldrunner » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:51 pm

The Amiga could display 32 colours on screen at once, or even 64 using half-brite mode. In addition the Amiga could use two screens at once, so giving the ability of 32 colours for say the play area (first screen) and a different 32 for the control panel (second screen).

Add to the above the graphics co-processor that could do fantastic copper effects (gradiant fills) using only one bitplane, even with the STE enhancements a properly coded Amiga game is always going to look better!

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Postby jamesrc » Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:51 pm

Just to illustrate (and have the correction made on Atari Legend? :) ), here's the STFM and STe version.

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The STFM version of Fire & Ice

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The STE version of Fire & Ice

This game is STE enhanced. :)

Interestingly enough, there appear to be shots from both versions on Atari Legend, already.

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Postby Goldrunner » Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:29 am

I love side by side comparisons, nice one Jamesrc that should settle the matter once and for all.

By the way, in my previous post it looks like I'm belittling the Atari ST against the Amiga which is not the case. I was just admitting the Amiga's edge with colour usage for games, and believe me it was hard writing that post :roll:

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Postby ST Graveyard » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:17 am

Hello James,

Well, you've got me convinced. Unbelievable. Too bad it wasn't enhanced more.

Gold, no worries ... To me, that is the difference between an ST and an AMI user. We can admit there is more powerfull hardware out there :-) (I have to watch what I say here).

... Then again, who said more powerfull was better, he ;-)

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Postby ggn » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:53 pm

The one enhancement I would like to see in this game would be: Better frame rate. In level 4 it became totally unplayable for me and completely forgot about it. A pity.

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Postby earx » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:37 am

i guess the blitter would definitely help here.. maybe the STe hardware scrolling would help as well, but that largely depends on the amount of sprite data to be displayed (with hw scroll you have to restore the background behind the sprites).

nice about the STe rasters.. seems a bit like what ZooL did as well (although i wonder if that game was a bit more enhanced?).


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