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Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby dlfrsilver » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:39 am

Hello, i have finally got my hands on Skateball french version for Atari ST :)

I will get it soon ; i'll came back once i imaged the game in Pasti (maybe IPF).
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Maartau » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:55 pm

dlfrsilver wrote:Hello, i have finally got my hands on Skateball french version for Atari ST :)

I will get it soon ; i'll came back once i imaged the game in Pasti (maybe IPF).


Ah yes, cool game, that's welcome :D !
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Sturm » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:47 pm

This is one of my favourite games on the ST. It's not available on Amiga.
I use this version on my Falcon and it works great :
http://atari.8bitchip.info/SCRSH/skatew.html


There are 2 versions with different music :

David Whittaker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6_7Ary-bug&t=171s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3vKZtT1rtM

The one on 8bitchip is the english version (Skate Wars) with David Whittaker's music.

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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Maartau » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:07 pm

One of my favourite too :D .

I would like an STX of that version in fact 8) .

And both are missing @ Atarimania : Skate Ball / Skate Wars (versions with D. Whittaker tunes).
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby dlfrsilver » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:11 am

i'll see when i get the game this week.
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Stefan jL » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:59 am

Maartau wrote:And both are missing @ Atarimania : Skate Ball / Skate Wars (versions with D. Whittaker tunes).


I thought i had uploaded Skate Wars to AM already but apparently not :) But it is fixed now... i also fixed some other stuff like removing Epyx as publisher, changing year to 1990.. linking it to Skate Ball entry ... etc etc
http://www.atarimania.com/game-skate-wars_s10061.html
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Maartau » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:40 pm

Stefan jL wrote:
Maartau wrote:And both are missing @ Atarimania : Skate Ball / Skate Wars (versions with D. Whittaker tunes).


I thought i had uploaded Skate Wars to AM already but apparently not :) But it is fixed now... i also fixed some other stuff like removing Epyx as publisher, changing year to 1990.. linking it to Skate Ball entry ... etc etc
http://www.atarimania.com/game-skate-wars_s10061.html


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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Maartau » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:41 pm

dlfrsilver wrote:i'll see when i get the game this week.

:cheers: Denis :D .
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby catmando » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:17 pm

I assume this game is wanna-be Speedball 2 clone that was released after?
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Sturm » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:25 pm

dlfrsilver wrote:i'll see when i get the game this week.


Cool ! you will be able to tell us what's the "real" version of the game. The one with Whittaker's music or the other one ?

http://www.gametronik.com/site/fiche/at ... te%20Ball/

"Skate Ball connu aussi sous le nom de SkateWars. la légende veut que la version sous le nom de Skateball est en fait une Beta dérobée par les pirates et n'est pas la version officielle. Je ne sais pas si cela est vrai ou pas, je sais en tout cas que la musique n'est pas la même mais la version Skatewars que j'ai plante après la page d'intro donc pas pu la tester !"

Translation :
Skate Ball aka SkateWars :rumor says that the version under the name Skateball is actually a stolen beta and is not the official version. I do not know if this is true or not, I just know that the music is not the same but the Skatewars version I have crashed after the intro so I could not test it!
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Maartau » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:28 pm

Real versions are the ones with Whittaker's tunes :).

Others are beta....
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby dlfrsilver » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:20 am

Sturm wrote:
dlfrsilver wrote:i'll see when i get the game this week.


Cool ! you will be able to tell us what's the "real" version of the game. The one with Whittaker's music or the other one ?


simple :

skateball is the original french release, published by ubisoft

skatewars is the UK release, published by ubisoft in UK

it also exists named as skatewars, published in USA by epyx.

Stefan's version in SCP format is the UK/American release sold by epyx.

"Skate Ball connu aussi sous le nom de SkateWars. la légende veut que la version sous le nom de Skateball est en fait une Beta dérobée par les pirates et n'est pas la version officielle. Je ne sais pas si cela est vrai ou pas, je sais en tout cas que la musique n'est pas la même mais la version Skatewars que j'ai plante après la page d'intro donc pas pu la tester !"[

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Skate Ball aka SkateWars :rumor says that the version under the name Skateball is actually a stolen beta and is not the official version. I do not know if this is true or not, I just know that the music is not the same but the Skatewars version I have crashed after the intro so I could not test it!


i don't know who wrote this, but this is utter bullshit. skatewars is the name ubisoft used in the anglo-saxons/american countries. Skateball atari ST is based on the Amstrad CPC original. I have bought the original french release, which is certainly not a beta. It comes boxed with manual, and floppy disk. What happened however, is that ubisoft comissioned David Whittaker for the english/Us release. So in this respect, both versions are simply different :)
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby dlfrsilver » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:22 am

Stefan jL wrote:
Maartau wrote:And both are missing @ Atarimania : Skate Ball / Skate Wars (versions with D. Whittaker tunes).


I thought i had uploaded Skate Wars to AM already but apparently not :) But it is fixed now... i also fixed some other stuff like removing Epyx as publisher, changing year to 1990.. linking it to Skate Ball entry ... etc etc
http://www.atarimania.com/game-skate-wars_s10061.html


EDIT : The game was commissioned by Epyx to Ubisoft. So the Epyx Release is indeed the US release.

skatewars was published by ubisoft in UK, but not in USA, were it was sold by Epyx

ubisoft UK must remains as the UK publisher, and Epyx as the american publisher.
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Maartau » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:30 pm

A dump please for the French version :D .

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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby dlfrsilver » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:51 pm

Ok, back home, i got the packet for Skateball. the disk was of course dirty, so after a bit of clean up, and a kryoflux dump, a CTR file and a STX pasti file, here it is :)

The game is single sided, use 11 sectors per track, and use the usual track 79.0 protection :)

a few informations found on this original disk :

1) The disk is modified in track 78 (scores). Fortunately, they have included a fresh image of the scores ! So the STX disk image is clean !

2) The protection in track 79 is called "Protect", and is made by Tsunoo Rhilty, like Necromancien.

3) The game, while being the french version has the intro text in english, and the menu text in french.

3) a message in french found :

"Voici venir le temps des high scores commes on les a penses a une epoque deja bien passee. Ce programme a ete ecrit dans un premier temps en STOS, puis reecrit par Herve DUDOGNON pour lui donner avec les graphismes d'Orou MAMA ce cote arcade comme on les aimes"

in english :

"Here comes the high scores moment like we thought them in an already long passed time. This programme has been written firstly in STOS, then re-written by Herve DUDOGNON to give it with Orou Mama's graphics this arcade style we all like."

The music on the french version is done by David Whittaker.

So basically, i'll modify hereby what i said above:

The beta version is the one made in STOS. David Whittaker has then been commissionned for the music on the final retail releases French / UK/ US.



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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Stefan jL » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:34 pm

dlfrsilver wrote:EDIT : The game was commissioned by Epyx to Ubisoft. So the Epyx Release is indeed the US release.
skatewars was published by ubisoft in UK, but not in USA, were it was sold by Epyx
ubisoft UK must remains as the UK publisher, and Epyx as the american publisher.


The version at Atarimania is the Ubisoft release not Epyx.
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby dlfrsilver » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:32 pm

Stefan jL wrote:
dlfrsilver wrote:EDIT : The game was commissioned by Epyx to Ubisoft. So the Epyx Release is indeed the US release.
skatewars was published by ubisoft in UK, but not in USA, were it was sold by Epyx
ubisoft UK must remains as the UK publisher, and Epyx as the american publisher.


The version at Atarimania is the Ubisoft release not Epyx.


The version you upped in SCP format is the Epyx American release :)

The logo Epyx is on the title screen.
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Stefan jL » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:41 pm

I don't know why it says Epyx on the titlescreen... maybe they did not bother to change it for USA and Europe release... the box clearly state it is the "PAL" version.
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby dlfrsilver » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:44 pm

Stefan jL wrote:I don't know why it says Epyx on the titlescreen... maybe they did not bother to change it for USA and Europe release... the box clearly state it is the "PAL" version.


ok, so ubisoft then kept the Epyx logo in Skate wars UK release. Good :)

It appears that they were operating from France.... Ubi UK at guildford was not up during those years.
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Sturm » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:41 pm

The more i play it, the more i like it.
Too bad the scrolling is a lil bit jerky.

I prefer this one to speedball in fact. Love the dark and bloody atmosphere.
This game would really benefit from an STE/Falcon version, with DMA sound and better scrolling :p

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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Maartau » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:16 pm

Thanks for the dumps :D :D !!!

I love that game, too bad the scroll is jerky, totally agree...
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby dlfrsilver » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:22 pm

I have uploaded in the Atarimania FTP everything, the KFraw, CTR, STX and the game scans.
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Maartau » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:02 am

dlfrsilver wrote:I have uploaded in the Atarimania FTP everything, the KFraw, CTR, STX and the game scans.

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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby Marakatti » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:51 am

dlfrsilver wrote:I have uploaded in the Atarimania FTP everything, the KFraw, CTR, STX and the game scans.

Thanks man :cheers:
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Re: Skateball / Ubisoft

Postby dlfrsilver » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:13 pm

Well, be my guest.
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