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Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby Mug UK » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:56 pm

Went looking last night through my usual Atari ST searches yesterday evening and was gobsmacked for two reasons:

1) a lot of classic titles I've never and/or rarely seen on eBay - that's a good thing.

but ...

2) the abso-f'kin-ridiculous prices wanted by the same-said sellers. OK, a few are shrink-wrapped and probably deserve such prices but some are just way O.T.T. (mostly those from USA & Germany at present) - £50 for Phantasie 1 & 2? (Might even be just #1 as my copy has both #1 & #2 in it).

On the one had you've got fatboy doing his bit for the preservation side of things but on the other hand you've got extortionists trying to make a killing - that is assuming people out there in eBay-land are daft enough to pay these prices.

Ah well .. roll on when it's back to normal!
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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby bullis1 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:11 pm

I never noticed, because I abandoned ebay a few years ago. You should be like me, and get most of your old games/software from dumpsters or underneath people's filing cabinets :D

I gave up on ebay because of high prices. Whenever I found something that was a good deal, it would end up with ludicrous shipping/handling. In most cases my purchases (such as an old game) were something like $14 item + $12 S&H. It's not steep really but you buy a lot of things and it isn't worth it anymore and it certainly isn't a deal. Now I just hold out and hope I find whatever I want in the "real world" and I usually do but it takes time. I would only use ebay again for cases where I want something from Japan and it's unlikely it will ever be found in my territory.
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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby Mug UK » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:14 pm

Just redid my search and the most expensive are:

Empire: Campaign Tactical & Strategy War: - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Empire-Campaign-T ... 0258088427 - £50.30 and then there's the £18 delivery from the USA. Ouch! ouch! ouch! I'd probably paid around £5 (max) for this item when I bought it :)

The Guild of Thieves - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Guild-of-Thie ... 0244107068 - £26.99 plus £3.50 postage. Again, I must have got lucky on my copy as I think I got it as part of a job lot which equates it to around £3!

Centrefold Squares - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Atari-Centerfold- ... 0276277884 - now this is still expensive at around £20 plus the silly shipping fees from the USA but at least it's a USA-style box and not the crappy one Anco released it in the UK with :) Still not worth that amount of money though!
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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby techie_alison » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:02 pm

Yes, I've noticed it too.

There's people on there selling stuff which is practically worthless, yet dressing it up as being rare and one of a kind. There's a copy of Carrier Command on there at the moment as a BIN, which has been there for a couple of months now. It just *might* be of interest to me if it included the cassette AND especially the badge.

I have here The Magenetic Scrolls collection sitting in my crate, amongst a few other things.

Then there's other items on eBay that you would expect to go for alot, yet are going for practically nothing.

EPROMs are another one. Seller's not knowing what they're selling and marking everything as rare. You can buy the things brand new!! On the subject of EPROMs atm, the UK prices are just totally silly. USA prices are more sensible for 2nd's. In the end I just bought the things new. As I did buy a batch of OTP PROMs off of eBay and they were ALREADY PROGRAMMED!! despite being blank.

Not quite sure what's happening to eBay atm. There are vintage categories that were previously brimming with finds, which are now either empty or full of traders selling items in the wrong categories (deliberately).

As a suggestion, it would be a HUGE advantage if there was a bolt on for the PHP forum (which Atari-Forum uses) which added some form of auction listing. There's not many of us...

The thing that I find SO DISAPPOINTING is the little sellers who are going to the trouble of putting their kit up (which we want), and it's practically going unnoticed. I think that the past years of all of the little trinkets and bits of obscure junk being listed en-mass is diminishing.
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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby jd » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:14 am

techie_alison wrote:Yes, I've noticed it too.

As a suggestion, it would be a HUGE advantage if there was a bolt on for the PHP forum (which Atari-Forum uses) which added some form of auction listing. There's not many of us...


Brilliant idea, can we do this??

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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby PaulB » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:43 am

You mean like this free auction add-on for phpbb?

http://www.phpbb-auction.com/

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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby Mug UK » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:38 pm

Another one (and for a change, they're based in the UK) - £19.99 + p & p for most of his ST stuff. It's not even shrink-wrapped or 'special' in any sort of way. Almost as bad as those car-booters who think Sega Megadrives are worth £25!

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/sega_hunter
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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby Mug UK » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:36 pm

Another one .. this seller is giving you a £9 discount off the original selling price! How generous!

Would you seriously pay just under £18 and then add P & P on top for a copy of Speedball 2 - without the manual!!???!?!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... SS:GB:1123
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Postby PaulB » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:47 pm

Haha! Must be having a laugh. Not even tested so someone might buy a dud. I don't think it'll sell at that price. Probably be listed again in a couple of weeks at half the price. Then again, at half that (in which case he may actually sell it).

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Postby Mug UK » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:42 pm

A quick update as the uber-silly-price sellers are back on eBay.

Chambers of Shaolin

UK - £2.99 & £2.85 postage (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHAMBERS-OF-SHAOL ... 286.c0.m14)

Germany - 38 Euros! (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHAMBERS-OF-SHAOL ... 286.c0.m14)


Speechless! Hoping that when I get the Eurocon in 10 days time, the stuff in the RetroBorse is more like the UK prices than what I've seen from this seller in Germany! :)
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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby Mug UK » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:45 pm

Or then there's Dragon's Lair 1 & 2 from the same seller - inc. p & p, that'll be just over £100 mister :)
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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby PaulB » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:03 pm

Have a look at his What he's selling page.

Some of it is disgusting price wise.

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Postby Mug UK » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:42 pm

Speechless x infinity and beyond :)

£97 for 10 Lucasarts games. Eeek!
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Postby PaulB » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:34 pm

But perhaps they are Ebay RARE hehe!

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Postby partykiller » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:48 pm

there are two German based sellers who are renowned for charging (or rather trying to charge) ceiling prices on stuff that is not particularly rare. The whole "classic computers" section for some platforms is filled up with items from these sellers' shops. Lonely george and zockstube. They sometimes even buy auction stuff on eBay for prices which are just about right for a fan or a games collector, but never for someone with a business account who is in it for reselling the items again.

One of them has a sealed Ultima II, but is that item worth more than 200 EUR? Honestly?!

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Postby Mug UK » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:54 pm

I really hope neither of them are at Eurocon then ... they'll be going home with the same stock they bring :)
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Re: Is it me or is there a lot of silly prices on eBay right now

Postby partykiller » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:02 pm

yep, they definitely will. But I suppose they won't show up anyway. One of them is also notorious for trying to snatch items on eBay by contacting sellers before the auction end and asking them to sell outside eBay and ending items early.

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Postby STcomp » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:54 am

I just have to chime in on this one...yes there are a lot of prices that go beyond silly, in to the realm of completely lame. Disk only ST games with no box or manual for $30 and up that several USA dealers still carry shrink wrapped for $10? Whaah-waaah. I will admit that I auction off a lot of games, and I do not necessarily sell them dirt cheap, but I always have a reasonable starting price, and a reasonable buy it now for someone who really wants it badly, and I always price in a way that would be agreeable to myself if I were hunting for the game. I really can't say I have any bad feelings toward someone auctioning for high prices though. If someone wants to sell a lint ball for $10 or a snapped in half floppy disk of Hard Drivin' for ths ST untested for $20 it is my freedom to not bid on it. And sometimes it is cool when an overpriced dealer has a game that you really want, and nobody snagged it because of the high price. When I get an ultra high unexpected bid on a game I am selling, I use it as justification to buy an overpriced game from someone else. That one dealer in Europe (don't want to name names) with the silly prices actually has a cool ST box variation I have never seen, that is tempting...but ultimately too friggin' expensive after shipping!!!

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Postby partykiller » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:20 pm

you are right, of course.
If he choses to offer items for high prices, well, it is up to him. There is a huge difference in "selling stuff for high prices" and "trying to sell/offering stuff for high prices".
And one more thing is true and a nice advantage: the high prices tend to deter people from buying a few games just for fun, that way particularly "cool" items remain for those who really appreciate and value them. And if it is an item you had been looking for so long, this "high entry limit" turns out to be an advantage.
But I reckon there are several experienced collectors here who can judge prices correctly. No-one is forced to purchase "overpriced" items, correct.

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Postby Mug UK » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:09 pm

Two titles I was after are on there right now but I've been outbid at the levels I thought they were worth - so I won't rebid. Oids & the Ninja Mission game (yes it's crap, but it is one of the few Mastertronic titles I'm missing!) - c'est la vie. They'll turn up again sometime.
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Postby STcomp » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:56 pm

Hahaha but Ninja Mission is not crap, is it??? I still play that game! I like the primitive but weird A.I. of the ninjas, and the way they can pick up your throwing stars. Also floating up through the ceiling at the end of the level was ahead of its time! (crouching tiger hidden dragon)

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Postby Mug UK » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:52 am

Just a gap filler for the ever expanding collection. Wouldn't mind some of the Mastertronic stuff from the USA but the postage over here is prohibitive - especially when they're all thin cardboard sleeves.
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Postby Desty » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:30 am

bullis1 wrote:I never noticed, because I abandoned ebay a few years ago. You should be like me, and get most of your old games/software from dumpsters or underneath people's filing cabinets :D

Has anyone tried ebid for this sort of stuff? It's smaller than ebay, but sometimes you'll find decent stuff (and probably a little cheaper since the fees are way lower than on ebay). I haven't bought anything there yet, but I'm keeping an eye out for a cheap pair of joysticks for my ST :D Might be waiting a while...
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Postby Mug UK » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:33 pm

This has to be the best one so far (from the cash-desperate sellers in the USA) - Populous in EA (USA) style box ... yours for only $129.99!!!!! That's almost £75 in UK money and that's *before* the postage costs are added!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Populous-Bullfrog ... 0228619349

I'm glad I bought mine off STComp!
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Postby Desty » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:30 pm

FFS. You could buy a second-hand PS2 with a bunch of games for that. Tossers.
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