dhedberg wrote:I have no interest in anything but the real hardware. I think the MIST attracts people without real hardware that want to experience it again. It's alot easier and cheaper to get the MIST up and running.
dma wrote:There are many MIST discussions here, just because a section of this forum is the official MIST forum.
I don't see much post about MIST outside of the MIST section.
And i certainly care more about original hardware than emulation hardware when it comes to Atari computers.
AtariZoll wrote:Finally, FPGA clones are not "emulation" - there is it in some level, but for instance CPU core emulates not original CPU - it acts practically same as original.
troed wrote:A MIST runs about 0% of Atari ST demos.
AtariZoll wrote:So, time is working against original HW, and in favor of emulation/cloning
AtariZoll wrote:So, can we say that currently we are under transition to HW clones, and majority will use them soon ?
troed wrote:Of course. But, it's also "our" generation that grew up with this platform that's even interested at all. Time is working against us. Our kids don't care.
troed wrote:Our kids don't care.
joska wrote:No. Retro computing is mostly about emulation nowadays. Even the hardcore demosceners who detests emulators use modern computers to do all their development and only use the real hardware for testing. The people developing stuff like MiNT or EmuTOS are not using computers running MiNT or EmuTOS for anything else than testing MiNT and EmuTOS. The same applies to people hacking/fixing games, or creating new games. Most work is done *for* these computers, not *with* them.
Hardware clones like MIST are interesting, but not necessarily the future. They are not the real thing, and they are not more accurate recreations of real hardware than emulators. I'm quite sure that FPGA clones will be used by a small minority in the future too, with real hardware being replaced with software emulation as the old machines dies. Most retro gamers are really only interested in playing the occasional game and does not care about the hardware itself.
OTOH you got people that see the actual hardware as an essential part of the experience. They will continue to keep these old machines alive, and even improve them. FPGA clones falls somewhere in between.
AtariZoll wrote:Developing SW on stronger machine is nothing new, it was used in 80-es by SW companies which were able to buy some VAX, or any capable to emulate commercial computers of that time.
AtariZoll wrote:Not everyone is for desktop computers. Many even have not it today - why should, when can do all their needs with some tablet or smartphone.
seastalker wrote:PEOPLE made the originals at a factory as their company job = awesome
PEOPLE make replacement ones now with heart and passion, only lacking "official" company endorsement, brand and logo = exact same awesomeness
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