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Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac, Archimedes... and then ported to Windows

Postby calimero » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:07 pm

Hi,

I am trying to complete list of programs that start their life on non-PC (Wintel) computers and that are still in use today (or at least: they were popular) for Windows/Mac OS X/Linux. Let me start:

3D:
  • Cinema 4D - Amiga (1990.) link
  • LightWave - Amiga (1988.) link
  • Real3D - Commodore 64 (1983.), Amiga (1990.) link
  • 3dmax / 3D Studio - Atari ST (1985.) link
  • Autodesk Animator - Atari ST "Cyber Paint"
  • Maya (Alias|Wavefront) - SGI (1992.)
  • Softimage|3D - SGI (1988.)

Audio:
  • Stainberg Cubase (ex. Pro-24) - Atari ST (1989.)
  • Apple Logic (ex. C-Lab Notator) - Atari ST (1988.) link
  • Band in a box - Atari ST (19??.)
  • Bars and Pipes - Amiga (19??.) link link
  • Sibelius (Music Notation Software) - Archimedes link

Video:
  • Scala (ex. Infochannel 1989.) - Amiga (1990.) link link
  • Hollywood NLE - Amiga (19??.) link
  • Adobe Premiere - Apple (1991.)
  • Adobe After Effects - Apple (1993.) (Company of Science and Art > Aldus > Adobe)

DTP:
  • Aldus PageMaker - Mac (1985.)
  • Quark Xpress - started on the Mac
  • PageStream (ex. Publishing Partner) - Atari ST (1986.) link
  • Calamus - Atari ST (1987.)
  • Corel - PC/Windows (1989.) link
  • Adobe Photoshop - Apple (1990.) (codename "Display" 1988., later "Photoshop" 1990.)
  • Adobe Illustrator - Apple (1986.) (codename "Picasso")
  • Aldus/Altsys Freehand - Apple (1988.) (Aldus > Macromedia > Adobe)
  • ...entire Adobe PostScript revolution - Mac
  • PhotoLine32 - Atari ST (19??.) link
  • Artworks (Vector graphics package by Computer Concepts) - Archimedes link (Windows version called Xara Photo & Graphic Designer.)
  • Ovation Pro (Desktop Publishing) - Archimedes link

CAD:
  • AutoCad - CP/M (1982.) link
  • ArchiCad - Mac (1982.)
  • Tenado CAD (ex. Technobox CAD/2) - Atari ST (19??.) link

Office:
  • Superbase - C64 (1983.) link
  • Microsoft Excel - Mac (1985.)
  • Microsoft Word - PC/DOS (1983.) (start as Bravo at Xerox)

...
there is more examples, like DA's Picture which was ported from Atari ST to RISC OS link or I wonder what happend with DynaCADD and his author...?
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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac...

Postby Dal » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:40 pm

If you're including stuff that started on DOS as well (You added Microsoft Word), then Lotus 123, Quicken, Sage and Word Perfect should be included. There are probably loads, but these came to mind straight off the bat.
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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac...

Postby alexh » Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:31 pm

If Bars and Pipes was always known as "Bars and Pipes Professional" and the release year for 1.0 is 1991/2 (I've seen both quoted)

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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac...

Postby nativ » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:35 pm

iTunes > CDPlayer Atari - Alexander Claus - 1997?
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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac...

Postby nativ » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:35 pm

double post
Atari STFM 512 / STe 4MB / Mega ST+DSP / Falcon 4MB 16Mhz 68882 - DVD/CDRW/ZIP/DAT - FDI / Jaguar / Lynx 1&2 / 7800 / 2600 / XE 130+SD Card // Sega Dreamcast / Mega2+CD2 // Apple G4

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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac...

Postby calimero » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:58 pm

^
well... no! :)

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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac...

Postby wongck » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:04 am

calimero wrote:Microsoft Excel - Mac (1985.)

Excel actually had some roots in MultiPlan which IIRC I saw first on CP/M.
Multiplan may be a copy of the very first spreadsheet Visicalc for the Apple ][.
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Postby Mal7921 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:51 pm

Cubase is related to pro24, however Pro24 is related to Pro16 which was on the Commodore 64, logic also has its roots in the C64 via the ST if you go back far enough.
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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac...

Postby Dal » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:56 pm

Makes you wonder if there are still the odd lines of code that made it through all the incarnations.
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Postby Mal7921 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:21 pm

Dal wrote:Makes you wonder if there are still the odd lines of code that made it through all the incarnations.


With the launch of Cubase VST 5 on the pc and mac back in 1998/99, there was a public beta forum started when he program proved to be shall we say, unreliable? Nah that does unreliable program's a disservice.

Anyhow a feature was not working as planned and as part of the beta team we looked at what was happening and posted the results in our own dedicated forum. When the coders looked at the code, there were whole segments that were from the Atari days...

Just goes to show...


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Postby Dal » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:23 pm

yup, nothing get's fixed until it breaks ;)

That's a great story, reminds me of this:
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Postby wongck » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:45 pm

Mal7921 wrote:
Dal wrote:Makes you wonder if there are still the odd lines of code that made it through all the incarnations.


Anyhow a feature was not working as planned and as part of the beta team we looked at what was happening and posted the results in our own dedicated forum. When the coders looked at the code, there were whole segments that were from the Atari days...


Takes too much time to write from scratch.
So just copy from working code.... ended up with non-working ones.
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Postby Shredder11 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:33 am

Mal7921 wrote:
Dal wrote:Makes you wonder if there are still the odd lines of code that made it through all the incarnations.


With the launch of Cubase VST 5 on the pc and mac back in 1998/99, there was a public beta forum started when he program proved to be shall we say, unreliable? Nah that does unreliable program's a disservice.

Anyhow a feature was not working as planned and as part of the beta team we looked at what was happening and posted the results in our own dedicated forum. When the coders looked at the code, there were whole segments that were from the Atari days...

Just goes to show...


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I just noticed this thread mentioned in another topic and noticed I had not read this properly first time around. Wow so there is Atari code in VST 5 eh! I guess it is re-compiled / converted of course due to the different processor etc. You're right about VST being more buggy than a wet forest, but once the main issues were ironed out I quite like that version of Cubase. Yes the add-on studio racks of FX and instruments was a kludge, but the MIDI side still had the classic Atari feel to it. There was some debate about whether the sound engine was inferior sounding to the later SX version, but I cannot be sure without testing.

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Postby Mal7921 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:27 am

It caused a pretty spectacular crash in one of the public beta's, total locking of the pc! I think it was 5.04pb, I remember that because it affected standard vst5 and vst5/32 users differently, which was the reason it got spotted at all!

Ah those were the days, it all stopped and went silent again with the launch of cubase sx and sl
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Postby Shredder11 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:26 pm

I've used SX 3 a fair bit and even the initial Essex but it feels too packed with features, and the GUI is less intuitive for my tastes coming from the Atari version and then the VST one.

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Postby Mal7921 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:17 pm

I loved cubase, right up to cubase 4.5 which seemed to be rock solid in the week I got to try it. Sadly we were then burgled and the cubase laptop, the backups, the dongle were all taken in the haul. Steinberg would not replace the dongle, the insurance would not replace the software so I was faced with buying something I already legally owned again with no help or support.

Hence my falling out with steinberg and my wholesale dumping of their products on eBay back in September 2008.

I keep looking at cubase now and again, but I'm entrenched in logic now on the mac, cubase is on the ataris but is not something I intend to get on the mac anytime soon, not even pirated.
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Postby Shredder11 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:05 pm

Very shitty of Steinberg to be like that, because a simple purchase receipt and a bit of insurance policy proof would have been sufficient. So if the refused after that then they are scumbags.

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Postby Mal7921 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:57 pm

Yeah, but at least they are not the originators of shitty service, that honor belongs to someone else, not sure who or what platform though
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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac... and then ported to Windows

Postby Zarchos » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:54 am

From the Archimedes :
- Sibelius (Music Notation Software) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibelius_(software) )
- Artworks (Vector graphics package by Computer Concepts) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArtWorks ) (Windows version called Xara Photo & Graphic Designer.)
- Ovation Pro (Desktop Publishing) ( https://www.davidpilling.com/ovationpro.html )
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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac... and then ported to Windows

Postby calimero » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:42 pm

@Zarchos thanks!

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Postby Zarchos » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:34 pm

calimero wrote:@Zarchos thanks!

Added.


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I am a bit surprised you don't list the GFA BASIC ported to Windows ... (and also AMOS from the Amiga, and the BBC BASIC).
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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac, Archimedes... and then ported to Windows

Postby Brume » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:25 am

G Data (company expert in security software) started to develop his antivirus on Atari ST between 1986-1987.

Source: https://www.gdata.fr/connaitre-g-data/lentreprise (French text)

Also a picture of an Atari ST running G DAta solution can be found here :

https://www.gdata.de/ueber-g-data/museum (Deutsch site)

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Re: Programs born on Atari, Amiga, Mac, Archimedes... and then ported to Windows

Postby Dal » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:10 am

Quark Xpress started on the Mac before being ported to Windows.
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