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Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Stefan jL » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:20 pm

I had been wondering about the number on EA Atari ST gamedisks for a while so i decided to look it up and here is what i guess it means.
Much is guessing though so don't take it too seriously :)

First an example... Populous:
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- E09731XL -
The "E" would mean this is an European release :)

- E09731XL -
The next three digits would mean this is EA's 97'th European game release.
Another example would be "002" wich then means Skyfox. EA started publishing in Europe in 1986 so early numbers mean the game is from around 1986. Worth mentioning is that Starflight that was released for the ST on 1990 has a very early number (013) but it is because the game number is not ST specific and EA did release Starflight in 1986 in Europe for the IBM compatible.
Another worth to mention game is Populous 2 wich has number "205" but later a 512kb version was released and it got a new number (223) and i belive that is ST specific.

- E09731XL -
The fifth digit is system... and the ST is "3". The Amiga is "1", C-64 is "4" and PC is "5".. thats all systems i figured out :)
There is an exception though... Populous Promised Lands (E11050XL) wich is a dual ST/Amiga disk and has a "5" as system but is not PC, maybe together with the sixth digit they would become "50"... i have really no idea.

- E09731XL -
The sixth digit i am guessing is media type.. 1 means disk. For C-64 so would "2" mean cassette.

- E09731XL -
The seventh digit is language... if it is an "X" then it is in english and there is only an english version released of it.
Let's take Powerdrome as an example, "E07031EL"... it has en "E" and that means the software is in english (would match the gamebox number "E07031EI") and that means there is other languages available of the game, i just did a quick google and found an German version "E07031GL" :)

- E09731XL -
The eight digit i have no idea but maybe something about the packaging? The "L"-type is the one with yellow/red disk labels and plastic case boxes, except Populous wich always comes in the paper box type even if the disk has yellow/red label, maybe this was when EA left the plastic case type and Populous ended up between the change as it comes with the other style also as see nin the pics i posted at the beginning of this post.
If you want the STE compatible version of Populous then go for the "D"-version (E09731XD) :D

*** an update ***
Not only EA's games has those number but all their software releases.
Let's take Deluxe Paint for ST as an example... "E15731ED[1]".. the [1] just means this is disk 1. DP is their 157'th software release and it exist in more languages than english :)
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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Stefan jL » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:54 pm

Had nothing to do so i decided to make a list of the EA software releases in europe for the ST.
The ST releases are in green text, i will try and list all EA games (even non-ST ones) up to 223 wich seems to be the last ST release from EA.
The ones at the bottom don't follow the normal numbering so i don't know how to understand them but they are as you see in the list.
Please help and fill the the many gaps :D I will edit this post with updates and corrections.

001 -
002 - Sky Fox
003 - Arctic Fox
004 - Marble Madness
005 - PHM Pegasus
006 - World Tour Golf
007 - Legacy of the Ancients
008 - Lords of conquest
009 - Earth Orbit Stations
010 - Bard's Tale - Tales of the Unknown
011 - Earl Weaver Baseball
012 -
013 - Star Flight
014 - Return To Atlantis
015 -
016 -
017 -
018 - Instant Music
019 -
020 -
021 -
022 - Bard's Tale 2
023 -
024 - Ferrari Formula One
025 -
026 - Pinball Contruction Set
027 -
028 -
029 - Demon Stalkers
030 -
031 -
032 - The Archon Collection
033 - The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes
034 -
035 -
036 - John Madden American Football
037 - Sky Fox 2
038 -
039 - Birds Of Prey
040 -
041 -
042 -
043 - Music Construction Set
044 -
045 -
046 -
047 -
048 - Skate or Die
049 - Strike Fleet
050 -
051 -
052 -
053 -
054 -
055 -
056 -
057 -
058 -
059 -
060 -
061 -
062 - 688 Attack Sub
063 - F/A-18 Interceptor
064 -
065 -
066 -
067 - Bard's Tale 3
068 - Caveman Ughlympics
069 -
070 - Powerdrome
071 - Zany Golf
072 -
073 -
074 -
075 -
076 - Fusion
077 -
078 -
079 -
080 -
081 -
082 -
083 -
084 -
085 -
086 -
087 -
088 -
089 -
090 -
091 -
092 -
093 -
094 -
095 -
096 -
097 - Populous
098 -
099 -
100 -
101 -
102 -
103 -
104 -
105 - Deluxe Paint III
106 - Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Trainer
107 -
108 -
109 - The Hound of Shadow
110 - Populous Promised Lands
111 -
112 -
113 - Magic Fly
114 -
115 -
116 - Starflight 2
117 - Budokan: The Martial Spirit
118 - Zone Warrior
119 - Imperium
120 - Centurion: Defender Of Rome
121 - Swords Of Twilight
122 -
123 -
124 -
125 -
126 -
127 -
128 -
129 -
130 -
131 - Indianapolis 500: The Simulation
132 - Projectyle
133 - Flood
134 -
135 -
136 -
137 -
138 -
139 - Powermonger
140 - Ski Or Die
141 -
142 - PGA Tour Golf
143 - LHX: Attack Chopper
144 -
145 -
146 -
147 -
148 -
149 -
150 -
151 -
152 -
153 -
154 -
155 -
156 -
157 - Deluxe Paint ST
158 - The Immortal
159 -
160 -
161 -
162 - Deluxe Paint IV
163 -
164 - Chuck Yeager's Air Combat
165 - Match Pairs
166 -
167 -
168 -
169 -
170 -
171 - Hard Nova
172 - Powermonger WW1
173 -
174 -
175 -
176 - Road Rash
177 -
178 -
179 -
180 -
181 -
182 -
183 -
184 -
185 -
186 -
187 -
188 -
189 -
190 -
191 -
192 -
193 -
194 -
195 -
196 -
197 -
198 - PGA Tour Golf: Tournament Course Disk
199 -
200 -
201 -
202 -
203 -
204 -
205 - Populous 2
206 -
207 - Populous World Editor
208 - Black Crypt
209 -
210 - Space Hulk
211 - Risky Woods
212 -
213 -
214 -
215 - Deluxe Paint IV - AGA
216 - Heroes of the 357th
217 -
218 -
219 - Rampart - EA only published the DOS version, the ST version was released by Domark.
220 -
221 -
222 -
223 - Populous 2 (512kb version)
224 - Desert Strike
225 - Car & Driver
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262 - FIFA International Soccer
268 - Escape from Monster Manor


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Y62731XL - Battle Chess
Y62841XL - Neuromancer
Y64131XL - Castles
E50231XL - Degas Elite
A70331XL - Test Drive
A70551XL - The Train: Escape to Normandy
A71741XL - Rack 'Em
A71641XL - Serve & Volley
A71851XL - Fast Break
A71941XL - TKO
A72041XL - Grand Prix Circuit
M91000XL - The Magic Candle II: The Four and Forty
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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Total Eclipse » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:35 am

My initial thought when seeing the two images was that the last character determines how the disk was labeled (D meaning Disk (I.e. printed directly to the floppy plastic) and L meaning Label attached)).

This is of course based on seeing 2 pictures, so could be totally wrong.

I'm due to tidy our loft this weekend, and have a file box full of boxed ST games to sort through before selling. I know there are a couple of EA titles in there so will check and update this thread.
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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Stefan jL » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:55 am

Added several games to the list... still no luck finding out wich one that is "001" :)
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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Spectone » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:08 am

I had a look on the moby games site and they often have disk scans under the cover art section. I found this one
http://www.mobygames.com/game/pinball-construction-set/cover-art/gameCoverId,113580/

E02651XL for PinBall construction set.

You can also search for EA published games by year there

http://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/electronic-arts-inc/so,1d/list-games/

Not all titles have European disk scans though.

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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Stefan jL » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:48 am

Yes thats was exactly what i was doing the other day... going through Mobygames by listing EA titles by year :)
But i missed Pinball Construction Set, thanks for finding it Spectone :)
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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Dal » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:16 am

Are the game ID numbers the same across all platforms? If so, that may account for the gaps given people are only searching ST archives?
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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Stefan jL » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:32 am

Yes the ID is the same for all platforms, but sometimes a special release got it's own number for example "Populous 2 (512kb version)" for the ST.

The ones in green text is also available for ST. I think all of EA's ST games is in the list now but i like to complete it up to 223 out of curiosity :)
Might be some non-game releases from EA that is not in the list yet though.
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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Greenious » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:59 am

Atleast the first 20-30 or so games are not in publishing order. My guess is that the numbering scheme is something EA came up with a couple of years into business?

http://www.atarimania.com/st/boxes/hi_r ... s_d7_4.jpg
Zany golf here with a number - 178902 which doesn't fit the numbering? American release?

http://www.atarimania.com/8bit/boxes/hi ... a_d7_3.jpg
Seven cities of gold for atari 8-bit on 5.25 floppy, I read 102002 (hard to read).

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/or ... 1ffd0c.jpg
Archon for Apple II on 5.25 floppy - 101502

None starts with E though, guess it's US releases?
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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Stefan jL » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:20 am

Correct those are USA releases you listed.
The numbering scheme is for the European releases only and some games was released many years earlier in USA than Europe and sometime the game was released for another system many years earlier in Europe for example Starflight that i mention in the first post wich have a low number for a 1990's game.

I guess it is possible to document the USA numbering also but that i will let someone else do.

Also EA never released any Atari ST games in USA as they were strong Amiga supporters, but the ST was quite big in Europe so they were forced to release games for the ST here :)

There is a field at Atarimanias game entries that say "serial" i guess this info can be used there... but maybe only the first 4 letters, i need to discuss this at Atarimania admin forum first :)
Did a test for Zone Warrior though by typing in "E118"
http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-st-zone-warrior_10936.html
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Re: Electronic Arts disk numbering for their European releases

Postby Greenious » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:25 am

I think there should be some link between the two numbering schemes, atleast system identifier and such could be the same?

https://www.c64-wiki.de/images/thumb/2/ ... ondisk.jpg
Archon for c64 on 5.25 floppy, 102402

http://mocagh.org/ea/archon2-disk.jpg
Archon 2 for Apple II on 5.25 floppy - 107102

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8tZe0xBjUG0/U ... ppy688.jpg
688 attack sub, PC on 5.25 floppy - 158406

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~3cAAOxy2 ... s-l500.jpg
Zany golf Amiga - E07111XL

http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/wp ... floppy.jpg
Deluxe paint Amiga - 112302
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