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Forgotten real good PD games

Postby Retrogamer_ST » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:25 am

Coltris is a great exemple of a real good forgotten PD game. The best clone of Segas Collumns i have played.

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Maze was on Atari ST User cover disk and was surprisingly playable, especially when you could design your own mazes. In the end it was most fun to contruct your own 3D mazes.

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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby nativ » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:44 am

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Blat
Operation Garfield
Pacman on E's
Winglord

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Ozone
Snake - bomb out bros
Downfall
Snowball fight
Air2air Combat
Attack of the killer tomatoes
Klaxtrix
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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby Klapauzius » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:46 am

nativ wrote:Downfall


Already forgot about that one? :)
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Postby Retrogamer_ST » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:06 pm

nativ wrote:Klaxtrix


If you liked Klatrix (actually made by a swede)

Try Coltris, much better control and 2 player mode, i uploaded it for you. ;)

Try Maze too, you might like it.
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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby nativ » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:06 pm

Klapauzius wrote:
nativ wrote:Downfall


Already forgot about that one? :)


I mean Snowfall? the two player snow 'em up!

Cheers Retro for Maze and Coltris

Violence ( ST User ? Coverdisk ) wasn't that bad
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Postby Retrogamer_ST » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:08 pm

Nope, Violence was quite good. ;)

Here's some more...

BELLUM - A galaxian clone, simple but feels right somehow

ROBERT IN THE FIRE FACTORY - For all people who loved MR Robot And His Robot Factory on Atari 800

CLOD HOPPER - A Miner 2049'er clone on Atari ST.
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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby nativ » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:48 pm

A bounce 'em up called Island Hopping on an ST Review Coverdisk!

I spent a some time with Violence, it was obviously trying for a Xenon II type feel and did quite well achieving that. If I recall it was quite difficult?!!

The was a really good game on a Your Sinclair covertape called Bellium, half shooter half pinball! :)

Never got that far with the game called 'Penguin', Although it was presented nicely.

SpaceWar - by Howard Jones! ( not that one !) think it was on a cover disk
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Postby DarkLord » Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:37 pm

Robotz (sp?)

Tough game, died if you hit the walls, if you were shot, if you looked
cross-eyed at something...well, okay maybe not the last part but you
get my meaning. :)

Still liked it a lot though.

Oh, and Dave Muncie's Berzerk! I just love the digitized voice, "Get the
humanoid - get the chicken!"... :)
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Postby Retrogamer_ST » Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:57 pm

Just about everything that Dave Munsie and Jeff Minter released as public domain was very playable.

Llamatron must be one of the best games ever found in a PD library. Dave Munsie's version of Centipede was by far the best.

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Postby nativ » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:26 pm

DarkLord wrote:Robotz (sp?)

Tough game, died if you hit the walls, if you were shot, if you looked
cross-eyed at something...well, okay maybe not the last part but you
get my meaning. :)

Still liked it a lot though.

Oh, and Dave Muncie's Berzerk! I just love the digitized voice, "Get the
humanoid - get the chicken!"... :)


DarkLord you did see The RGCD PCee Remake of Robotz?

Starball, shame those guy didn't do more releases!
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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby Retrogamer_ST » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:53 pm

A shame that Donkey Island wasn't released either.

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Postby nativ » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:10 pm

aha? Donkey Island?

We did get Grandad 1 & 2 though! ;)
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Postby Retrogamer_ST » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:15 pm

nativ wrote:aha? Donkey Island?

We did get Grandad 1 & 2 though! ;)


Both games was almost overqualified for being PD games. ;)

Both Grandad and Grandad II was real good.

Right now i'm looking for a great PD shooter that i forgot the name of. I will keep looking and post it here later.

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Postby DarkLord » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:21 pm

nativ wrote:
DarkLord wrote:Robotz (sp?)

DarkLord you did see The RGCD PCee Remake of Robotz?

Starball, shame those guy didn't do more releases!


Yep, nice effort.

You're right - that bunch had obvious talent. I wonder why
they didn't?
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Postby Dark Willow » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:35 pm

Retrogamer_ST wrote:
nativ wrote:aha? Donkey Island?

We did get Grandad 1 & 2 though! ;)


Both games was almost overqualified for being PD games. ;)

Both Grandad and Grandad II was real good.

Right now i'm looking for a great PD shooter that i forgot the name of. I will keep looking and post it here later.


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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby MrMaddog » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:27 am

I got a large collection of PD/Shareware games I still play to this day, so here's my favorites I always boot up...

Berzerk
Blat
Centipede (Sinistae Developments version)
Hardcore
Llamatron
Revenge of Mutant Camels (Yeah, huge Minter fan here...)
Pacman on E's
Robotz
Starball

I'd love to get more if the FTP sites are still up :)

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Postby Zogging Hell » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:01 am

Walls of Illusion! One of my favourite first person RPGs, also liked From Little Acorns (Text and graphic adventure) and despite the crap graphics, Dark Wars (another 1st person RPG).
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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby NGF » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:40 am

I tried Coltris, it's playable, I miss some nice music though. How come PD games often are without music?
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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby Dio » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:13 pm

MrMaddog wrote:Starball

Cheers :D .

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Postby Retrogamer_ST » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:29 pm

NGF wrote:I tried Coltris, it's playable, I miss some nice music though. How come PD games often are without music?


I played Coltris just about every evening for almost a year. :D

It's addictive and fun.

To answer your question about music for PD games.

I think it's very hard to make chip music, at least to make descent chip music. If we look at it, a few musicians made almost all music for all the games, hired by lots of different software houses. Musicians as Rob Hubbard, David Whittaker, Ben Daglish, Matt Furniss and Allister Brimble and a few more made almost all the music for all games on the market.

That's why many PD games is without music me think.

To mention a few more descent PD games. The Rockfall series and Pothole II which was clones of Boulder Dash.

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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby nativ » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:50 pm

Dio wrote:
MrMaddog wrote:Starball

Cheers :D .


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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby nativ » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:32 pm

The GEM edition of Asteroids, in Megamax C? works in Med and High res! Far too playable!

Cybernoid, Austrailian? Defender clone on a STF coverdisk, think it's even compatible with the falcon if you start from Low!
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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby NGF » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:26 pm

I think you are on to something Retrogamer_ST. But if I made a game I wouldn't release it without music, it feels like half the game is missing or something.

So what is the PD game with best music then?
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Postby Retrogamer_ST » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:47 pm

NGF wrote:I think you are on to something Retrogamer_ST. But if I made a game I wouldn't release it without music, it feels like half the game is missing or something.

So what is the PD game with best music then?


To take an even closer look. Many intros, demos and cracktros often used ripped music from one of the few composers that i mentioned. People like Jochen Hippel made much of the music for almost all demos for exemple.

The problem making chip music is that you only have 3 channels, or more correctly 3 tones to work with. You must use them to create chords, drums, bass and solo by changing the tones very quickly. That's why a "chord" sounds blurred in chip music. One channel switches between a couple of notes so fast that it sounds like a chord. (the typical chip sound)

It's not easy to make chip musik. ;)

If a PD game has real good music it's probably a game made by a demo crew.

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Re: Forgotten real good PD games

Postby nativ » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:23 pm

It was a remake of an 8 bit game... you fly a helicopter across the screen dropping bombs to create trenches to 'mine' diamonds or somthing! anyway it had some nice Quartet music I think! Something Heli 2?
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