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Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby damanloox » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:13 am

Could somebody please tell me what are my options in terms of video upgrade (ie. resolution of more than 640x480 and in color)?
I have Falcon with CT60e.
Also - are there any options for standard falcon (ie. with no CT60 etc)

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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby jury » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:27 am

Hardwarewise, the best would be of course Super Videl. Second best is CTPCI with Radeon card.
Softwarewise you can use programs like Videl Inside, Videlity ... which can give you 800x600x256 with pretty decent speed. Anything more will be tooooooo slow.

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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby Faucon2001 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:10 am

CTPCI doesn’t work with CT60e, only with CT60 and CT63.
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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby Kroll » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:32 am

Are you sure, that CTPCI does not work with CT60e, Did you check it ?

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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby damanloox » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:47 am

OK, thanks guys... I was actually trying to find supervidel and ctpci but no luck...

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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby Faucon2001 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:41 pm

Kroll wrote:Are you sure, that CTPCI does not work with CT60e, Did you check it ?

Yes, and I have tested it in detail. CT60e has a slight hardware modification vs CT60 and CT63 which needs a new patched TOS , and this patch has been applied only to TOS 1.04, not to TOS 2.02 which is necessary to use CTPCI. The issue is that sources of TOS 2.02 are not disponible hence the CTPCI not working with the CT60e.
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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby Kroll » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:20 pm

But, 2.01 version, it shoud be work with CT60e

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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby arf » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:35 pm

Faucon2001 wrote:
Kroll wrote:Are you sure, that CTPCI does not work with CT60e, Did you check it ?

Yes, and I have tested it in detail. CT60e has a slight hardware modification vs CT60 and CT63 which needs a new patched TOS , and this patch has been applied only to TOS 1.04, not to TOS 2.02 which is necessary to use CTPCI. The issue is that sources of TOS 2.02 are not disponible hence the CTPCI not working with the CT60e.


Sorry, I don’t get it. TOS 1.04 or TOS 2.x in the Falcon? How that?

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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby Faucon2001 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:36 pm

TOS 1.04 and TOS 2.02 are different version of TOS 4.04 patched for CT60. I know it’s confusing but it’s how they are named.
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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby jury » Thu May 24, 2018 10:11 am

Faucon2001 wrote:Yes, and I have tested it in detail. CT60e has a slight hardware modification vs CT60 and CT63 which needs a new patched TOS , and this patch has been applied only to TOS 1.04, not to TOS 2.02 which is necessary to use CTPCI.


Yesterday I have talked to a guy that told me that this "slight hardware modification" was just using newer Xilinx chips. Because of this, it was not possible to save configuration to the chips and thats why new version of TOS was generated. If just this is the case, than theoritically it could be possible to use CTPCI with CT60e, have you tried to program CT60e with TOS 2.01 or ( didnt even knew that this existed ) 2.02? It wouldnt be possible to save configuration, but the CTPCI should be operational I guess.

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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby mikro » Thu May 24, 2018 11:11 am

jury wrote:Yesterday I have talked to a guy that told me that this "slight hardware modification" was just using newer Xilinx chips.

Your guy is right, it's all here: https://github.com/mikrosk/ct60tos/comm ... 8737578952 (you can see in following commits that also flash060 and ct60conf.cpx have been changed but that's not so important).

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Re: Falcon/CT60e video options

Postby Faucon2001 » Thu May 24, 2018 11:25 am

jury wrote:
Faucon2001 wrote:Yes, and I have tested it in detail. CT60e has a slight hardware modification vs CT60 and CT63 which needs a new patched TOS , and this patch has been applied only to TOS 1.04, not to TOS 2.02 which is necessary to use CTPCI.


Yesterday I have talked to a guy that told me that this "slight hardware modification" was just using newer Xilinx chips. Because of this, it was not possible to save configuration to the chips and thats why new version of TOS was generated. If just this is the case, than theoritically it could be possible to use CTPCI with CT60e, have you tried to program CT60e with TOS 2.01 or ( didnt even knew that this existed ) 2.02? It wouldnt be possible to save configuration, but the CTPCI should be operational I guess.
yes, I have tested every patched TOS versions with the CT60e and CTPCI ... and ... none are working. In fact, it should not be too complicated to make it work, if the sources of TOS 2.02 were available... but they aren’t.
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