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Postby Rustynutt » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:34 pm

TECNATION'S SONOVISTA BIT BOPPER

Last night was in contact with the Director of O'WONDER LTD Alex Blok, developer and copyright holder of Tecnation's Sonovista Bit Bopper software.
The package was developed and implemented on an Atari Falcon 030, to generate real-time backdrop video effects for live concerts and music videos.

Somewhere along the line I purchased one of their Falcon 030 designed cases. Looking for a TT keyboard, saw this in the box and decided this would be the case for my CT60 installation, TT keyboard and other goodies. For some years have looked around to find Bit Bopper on servers to no avail, finding their website decided to make a request to purchase the legacy package. It looks like something fun to experiment and work with, as my son and girlfriend have an act where it would be a nice addition to the Falcon they use to trigger MIDI during their sometimes retro performances.

Subject of our emails began with a request to purchase the software package, with a snippet of the reply just below.

"We're fine with the software being distributed for free with the understanding it is not re-sold without an agreement with us."
"We have located the files so will try to place them on the server in the next few days and send you the link - no guarantee it will work, but the user guide is still online - did you see it?"

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M: +44 (0) 7584 905 800
E: alex.blok@owonder.com
O: +44 (0) 1865 600 133
W: http://www.owonder.com

I'm jazzed! Anytime commercial software on TOS platforms is OFFICIALLY released into our public domain is progress to keeping the platform alive.

Link to the current O'Wonder LTD website. Their current business in the U.K is interesting, likely anyone walking the streets and seeing a display doesn't realize the ideas and concepts were arrived at utilizing an Atari Falcon 030 in steps through the company evolution.

http://www.owonder.com

(direct link to the Falcon Bit Bopper package).

http://www.owonder.com/sonovista

Below a link to the U.S. distributor at the time. Almost unbelievable what their product line and it's involvement in today's performance industry world wide has evolved into. Ponder a bit looking at the site, looking throughout the sites forums for users, and think at some point in time the Falcon was a viable platform in that industry.

High End Systems

http://www.highend.com/

Thinking it might be proper to wait until the download on their servers is made available as opposed to anyone in possession of a copy makes it more broadly available. Alex did mention they still have some users on the platform, some likely to not even realize the Sonovista is an Atari Falcon 030. They may want to keep a history of packages distributed under this agreement, for accounting purposes.

At 3am last night, thinking about how recently 10 or so new in the box French version Falcons were found in a warehouse and distributed by Cubza.
It might be worth a call to High End Systems, hook up with a long time employee and ask if they have a "pile" of older gear they might want to sell.
You never know.
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Re: PUBLIC DOMAIN :TECNATION'S SONOVISTA BIT BOPPER

Postby nativ » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:43 pm

Hi,

Nice you have a response!

Very surprised you didn't find they had the software available free for a number of years now. Perhaps it was an older sonavista version? the one on the site looks different?!

I recall a friend at college having used one! Nice to see the picture you posted!

It's also my belief from an old rumor that they used the sonavista for the video visuals on the Magazine TV program called 'The Word'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XoJcbXgLI

I also just found a Bitbopper / + Amiga visual video on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxms6BNSPGc


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Postby krupkaj » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:43 pm

The program is still available on the ftp mirror here. I did not tried it though

http://storage.atari-source.org/atari/m ... /graphics/

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Postby wongck » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:31 am

Nice looking Falcon in Black but I rather have the Falcon badge on it.
I always wanted my falcon to be either in Blue or Black (like the one that DarkLord has).
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Postby Rustynutt » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:52 am

krupkaj wrote:The program is still available on the ftp mirror here. I did not tried it though

http://storage.atari-source.org/atari/m ... /graphics/


Thanks for the link. It's been some years since last looking for it.

For the black case, even with the keyboard fitting with CT60, will use TT keyboard (black :mrgreen: ) and have tinted blue plexiglass cover the keyboard opening. Maybe some lights for dancing girls too! Yellow_Colorz_PDT_01

With use of the overlay bit, some fun graphics can be done.

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Postby Rustynutt » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:14 am

Since that worked so well, what about the ATI PCI driver for the Milan?

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Postby Rustynutt » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:35 am

Alex did in fact email me a copy of Bit Bopper from his office.
Haven't checked their website yet, he was having difficulty getting past security to upload the file.

Anyway, think it's cool. Hope to get around to testing it in a week or so.
Make for nice entertainment this July on my 57th!

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Postby Eero Tamminen » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:59 am

Rustynutt wrote:"We're fine with the software being distributed for free with the understanding it is not re-sold without an agreement with us."
...
Anytime commercial software on TOS platforms is OFFICIALLY released into our public domain is progress to keeping the platform alive.


Free to use, but not to be sold, is NOT public domain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain

I'm pretty sure the company hasn't forfeited their rights in regards to the software (their lawyers wouldn't allow it), they just allow it to be used freely.

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Postby bullis1 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:43 pm

Eero Tamminen wrote:Free to use, but not to be sold, is NOT public domain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain

I'm pretty sure the company hasn't forfeited their rights in regards to the software (their lawyers wouldn't allow it), they just allow it to be used freely.

Yes, they said it couldn't be sold without their permission. This makes it "freeware" I suppose.
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Postby takashi » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:54 am

I used to run this program on my falcon030 in big clubs and raves in Japan in late 90s, it built up my career for sure. Now I would like to run it on my windows lap top with hatari.
Has anyone tried this? It seems the zip archive is incomplete, misses a few font files. Also there are no installation instructions. I tried the speed gdos in auto, correspond fonts in folders as written in sys files, but no go. The program quits saying GDOS is not present.

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Postby Oflife » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:34 am

[quote="Rustynutt"]TECNATION'S SONOVISTA BIT BOPPER Last night was in contact with the Director of O'WONDER LTD Alex Blok, developer and copyright holder of Tecnation's Sonovista Bit Bopper software.


Hi,

Alex Blok here. (Yes, really me!) A few updates:

1. It's great there is STILL interest in our project, many thanks! It is sad that Atari didn't see the Falcon etc though because like the Amiga (whose official demo software we created for Commodore in the 1980s), the Faclon's robust hardware was ahead of it's time and ideally suited to the connected multimedia ecosystems we take for granted today. In the 90s I was hoping to convince Atari to add connectivity to a future Falcon and turn it into a home media centre, but it was too late. :P

2. Tecnation was formed in the UK in 1985 but became O'WONDER in California in 1996 and now we're back in the UK mid forming an all new company: Tecterran. (tecnation.com and owonder.com now point to tecterran.com)
(Long story, but Tecterran is final! I always wanted a name like that in view of my interest in technology and a clean sustainable economy.)

3. There is a full user guide for Sonovista here, in fact, it has been here all along since 1995...

http://www.tecterran.com/svbb/usersguide/index.html

There is some technical information in the ADVANCED USERS section hear the end. That may help some of you with file installation if you are trying to 'build' a Falcon BiT BOPPER system.

4. My contact details have all changed, but although I designed and wrote the specification for Sonovista Falcon BiT BOPPER, our original engineers have since dispersed (Nick went on to lead the XBOX team!), I cannot really help with any complex engineering issues. I can only help with business or UX related matters.

Best way to reach me is via the contact form at http://www.tecterran.com/contact

5. The company is in stealth mode now whilst we engage in some interesting projects that we hope to realise in the coming years, possibly even a few audio driven visuals projects as hinted at on our temporary home page! :D

Again, massive thanks to those of you still enjoying the retro visuals of BiT BOPPER past!

;)

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Postby Oflife » Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:08 am

takashi wrote:I used to run this program on my falcon030 in big clubs and raves in Japan in late 90s, it built up my career for sure. Now I would like to run it on my windows lap top with hatari.
Has anyone tried this? It seems the zip archive is incomplete, misses a few font files. Also there are no installation instructions. I tried the speed gdos in auto, correspond fonts in folders as written in sys files, but no go. The program quits saying GDOS is not present.


Hi,

See if this helps...

http://www.tecterran.com/svbb/usersguid ... l#advanced

Alex
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Postby Dal » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:44 pm

Nice - thanks for posting Alex. BitBopper looks like a lot of fun to play with - might have to give it a shot here on a Falcon out of interest.

Can someone confirm the correct location of the BitBopper package sent by Alex?
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Postby calimero » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:29 pm

Oflife wrote:Alex Blok here. (Yes, really me!) A few updates:

1. It's great there is STILL interest in our project, many thanks! It is sad that Atari didn't see the Falcon...


Thanx for posting Alex.


I just read a little more about Nick Baker - here is a little computer history :) (hope you do not mind for offtopic):

"Born in the small coastal town of Hythe in southeastern England, Nick started tinkering with LED circuits at a young age and programming on a Sinclair ZX81 (with a whopping 1kB of memory). He says, “Once I start going on something, it is very hard to keep me contained.”

After graduating in 1990 from Imperial College, University of London’s tech and science school, Nick found his way to Apple. He worked on a specialized video card within the group that developed QuickTime. Nick then went to 3DO where he was on a team that pioneered an innovative, high-end gaming system. It may have never achieved commercial success but Nick “got a practical foundation in chip design and 3D Graphics.”

In 1997, Nick joined Microsoft on the recently acquired WebTV team. He went to work on their set-top-box known as UltimateTV and researched ways to add in gaming capabilities. Simultaneously, Microsoft entered the initial design phase for Xbox. Nick and the UltimateTV team were pulled to apply their hardware and gaming background to Xbox’s original design."


http://microsoftsiliconvalley.com/stori ... nick-baker

can you tell us what Nick exactly do on BitBopper?
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Postby Robson » Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:56 am

Resurrecting this thread just to have all info here.

I received mine yesterday. The psu was faulty but luckily I had a spare so it's up and running again.

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I have few questions for you:

1. Some images on the net show a black dongle connected to the rom port. What's that for. Talking to Alex he confirmed this was not needed for operation, so I'm not sure. Also mine works without.

2. The other thing is a display issue. Even running the demo, after 5-6 seconds the image get's jammed. I can go back to the menu and it'll fix it, however during playback it comes up again. I might need to try 1.6...I have 1.5 installed at the moment. This is through VGA I haven't tested the atari - composite cable that came with it.

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Postby Zarchos » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:28 am

The BiTBopper also worked with the Acorn Archimedes hardware, as early as 1988 :
http://www.tecterran.com/cbb/ and was demonstrated on the BBC (see video).

It'd be great if it could be made available for the Archies owners too ...
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Postby Robson » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:15 pm

Robson wrote:2. The other thing is a display issue. Even running the demo, after 5-6 seconds the image get's jammed. I can go back to the menu and it'll fix it, however during playback it comes up again. I might need to try 1.6...I have 1.5 installed at the moment. This is through VGA I haven't tested the atari - composite cable that came with it.


This is a display issue when VGA signal is used. Problem occurs when Glide and other scrolling effects used/kick in. This is the same in v1.6 as well.

Through composite it's all good.
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