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Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby Chandler » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:43 pm

I have the above original boxed game but sadly one of the disks is corrupted while recently testing it after all these years :(

Does anyone have this game? or know where i could download the original disks in English? there were 4 disks in total on HD disks, a boot disk and 3 disks marked A,B and C

Thanks :)

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby jury » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:53 pm

Have you tried this one:
http://christophe.bray.free.fr/informat ... n_jeux.htm
?
Web site is in French, but many games there are in English, so maybe Gravon is also in English.

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby Chandler » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:02 pm

Thanks i have checked that website but the game is in French

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:02 am

Well do have the game,and got reminded about checking out the disks.Seems like my C disk is damaged (or some residue on the surface).I believe it is english one since bought it from 16/32 way back.The others Msa just fine,not that can be sure about copy stuff since original game.

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby Chandler » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:02 pm

My Disk B is the faulty disk (looks like mould spores on the actual disk)

If anyone has or could copy disk B for me or help that would be great, i need a new disk basically

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby wongck » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:15 am

Chandler wrote:My Disk B is the faulty disk (looks like mould spores on the actual disk)

I have successfully recovered the data from mouldy diskettes by simply taking out the media (at the side opposite from the metal slider) and washing it.
I run the media under a tap while softly rubbing it with my fingers.
I did not use any material (cotton etc) to rub as I did not want to risk it being scratched.
Don't use any alcohol based liquid as it may take out the oxide or may melt the plastic media.
Dry and pop it back into the jacket. Hopefully it can be read now, if it does, quickly get all the data off.

You may want to try this as there is nothing to loose as the mouldy diskette does not read anyway.
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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby Chandler » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:11 am

I have tried to clean off the mouldy patch but it looks like it is embedded into the disk

I'm not messing around with it any more

Some of the data can be taken from the disk but not all

So if any can send me a copy of disk B, that's what i'm looking for

thanks

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:36 am

Chandler wrote:My Disk B is the faulty disk (looks like mould spores on the actual disk)

If anyone has or could copy disk B for me or help that would be great, i need a new disk basically


Interesting since had something odd looking on the disk surface aswell,2 spots, one small and a slightly bigger one, have to see if can fix it/clean it.And they been kept indoors and dry.

Meanwhile,trade disk images? :)
Dont think that the other disks (A-C) are more than data disks since it is Boot disk that has to be in drive when starting machine.
Will pop up the MSA:s later when fire up my falcy.Hopefully we have the same version of game.

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:27 pm

Since this place dont like bigger uploads than 3meg ,,here is disk B.
As files only now by request :) //edit
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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby Chandler » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:48 pm

neanderthal wrote:Since this place dont like bigger uploads than 3meg ,,here is disk B only.


Thankyou, very good of you :)

Remind me again how to convert an MSA file to Atari format?

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:56 pm

Just use MSA-2 program on your falcy and have a blank HD disk in drive.
And then you can save Disk C for me to file with same program ;)

If you dont have it,it should be somewhere around on the net since public domain.
http://www.umich.edu/~archive/atari/Arc ... a_2_3+.prg
I have something on linux aswell to check out some disk files but cant remember what its called just now.And PC:n are a bit restriced on floppy access.

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby kodak80 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:02 pm

I would be interested in MSAs for the other disks if you are willing to share?
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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby Chandler » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:35 am

Any chance you could just upload the original disk as a zip file? i tried to put the MSA file on a 1.44mb disk to use on the Falcon and PC says the MSA file is 4kb too big for the floppy!

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:25 pm

Chandler wrote:Any chance you could just upload the original disk as a zip file? i tried to put the MSA file on a 1.44mb disk to use on the Falcon and PC says the MSA file is 4kb too big for the floppy!


Oh,,so you tried some PC version for MSA then,well as I wrote, floppy on PC is a bit restricted in size and so forth.
Best thing is to get image file to falcon and use its drive.
Came to think of it since only 4k short,has the PC proggie format selectable ?

You dont have any null-modem cable or anything?(just quessing that you dont have network access to falcy)
Not certain that just files will work,could have disk check in install program and so forth.
Can test the upload later so it seems be ok aswell.

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:34 pm

kodak80 wrote:I would be interested in MSAs for the other disks if you are willing to share?


Surely Gravon must have been cracked at some point? Or was that the disks mentioned earlier that were in french or something?
Anywho,the boot disk most likely wont work since it need to boot with it.
And I lack a proper Disk C,which I am hoping Chandler could copy/MSA to me :)

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby Chandler » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:50 pm

Original Disk C Zipped with Winrar attached
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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby Chandler » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:51 pm

neanderthal wrote:
kodak80 wrote:I would be interested in MSAs for the other disks if you are willing to share?


Surely Gravon must have been cracked at some point? Or was that the disks mentioned earlier that were in french or something?
Anywho,the boot disk most likely wont work since it need to boot with it.
And I lack a proper Disk C,which I am hoping Chandler could copy/MSA to me :)


uploaded Disk C, could you upload Disk B again but as original files just zipped, no MSA!

Thanks :)

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:15 pm

Chandler wrote:
neanderthal wrote:
kodak80 wrote:I would be interested in MSAs for the other disks if you are willing to share?


Surely Gravon must have been cracked at some point? Or was that the disks mentioned earlier that were in french or something?
Anywho,the boot disk most likely wont work since it need to boot with it.
And I lack a proper Disk C,which I am hoping Chandler could copy/MSA to me :)


uploaded Disk C, could you upload Disk B again but as original files just zipped, no MSA!

Thanks :)


Thx Chandler,will be fun to see if can install the game with just file copy to disk.
Reloaded B disk as files in the above post.
ST-zipped from MSA copy just for the heck of it.

kodak80,,I'll see if can get my disk C running and I can pop up all of them.
Funny thing about using the oldie nice msa proggie,it wont format hd disks on the fly.
Had to preformat before writing back.

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:19 am

Well dang it worked,,did not dare to test pre at least had the files on disk that did not work.
Isopropyl alcohol did the trick,,mind the spelling there.(IUPAC name propan-2-ol),,test your stuff on crap floppy prior testing just to be safe.

So here the 4 msa:ed floppies..Not that they actually might be properly installable(hidden sectors what not on boot disk)

GRAV1DSK.ZIP
Boot and A disk.

GRAV2DSK.ZIP
B and C disk.

Msa:ed all of them.
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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby Chandler » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:30 pm

Mine too now works! :0)

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby kodak80 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:46 am

Can anyone provide scans or photos of the disks?
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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:33 pm

Chandler wrote:Mine too now works! :0)


Game or disk,,or both? :)

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:35 pm

kodak80 wrote:Can anyone provide scans or photos of the disks?

Is that for some online stuff or something?

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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby kodak80 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:56 am

neanderthal wrote:
kodak80 wrote:Can anyone provide scans or photos of the disks?

Is that for some online stuff or something?

I was thinking that it could be added to Atarimania as the information is currently missing.
http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-st ... 31342.html
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Re: Falcon game: Gravon - looking for disk download in english

Postby neanderthal » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:31 pm

kodak80 wrote:
neanderthal wrote:
kodak80 wrote:Can anyone provide scans or photos of the disks?

Is that for some online stuff or something?

I was thinking that it could be added to Atarimania as the information is currently missing.
http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-st ... 31342.html


Ah,ok i see,yeah was a bit thin there on the game.I'll keep it in mind,take some photos maybe.
Dont have 'network' connected camera so it will take a while ;)


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