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Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:10 pm
by Nick Harllow
Just sold my last Crown of Creation original and it hasn't survived well as one of the disks is corrupt.

As this is a original I was wondering does anyone have images of the original disks so I can send them to my customer? Not looking for crack or menus(are there cracked versions?, not certain, don't want to know). I am sure I can arrange some kind of recompense.


If you do please contact me at

nick@1632systems.co.uk - or PM me..

Thanks in advance

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:16 pm
by lotek_style
There is definitely no crack of CoC as nobody managed to beat the DSP-Protection routine.

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:47 pm
by calimero
lotek_style wrote:There is definitely no crack of CoC as nobody managed to beat the DSP-Protection routine.

Really ??

so there is no cracked version of CoC ?? I did not know that...

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:02 pm
by 030falcon030
I did. There was a whole thread on it not long ago.
So if Nick's ran out how are we going to get this game?

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:15 pm
by lotek_style
Calimero: Yes it has never been cracked before. The cracker needs some tough knowledge about coding the DSP to do that... and imho there are only a few people who might have this but they are not active anymore.

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:14 pm
by 030falcon030
Using the DSP was really very clever, since it is so radically different from anything else to program (according to my dad at least, who did try a bit of DSP assembly programming back in the day).
Looks like the rest of us active people really ought to learn more about it.

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:41 pm
by Marcer
There was an crack of it.. but thing is.. the game itself is hard to finish. so the protection was broken atleast 80% into the game. as it was never finilized in gamin way... But again.. why doesnt the today active haxxors fix this in notime?

as its proven that cracks do save history in one or another way

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:15 pm
by calimero
so 030falcon030, you did it (crack it)?

so if there is no more original to sell is it possible to release you crack? :)

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:31 am
by MacFalcon
It´s a real pitty that CoC3D isn´t available new anymore :( I love that game and own 2 originals and I think I will keep them if the disks fail!

@Nick: I would give you an image of my disks, but it won´t help your customer! They still are not treated as original game disks by the installer! No chance!!! I tried that a million times, with different copy programs... I will try at work one day and use the disk clone function and a hex editor, maybe that´ll work, but I never tried that with anything else than a harddisk...

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:50 pm
by 030falcon030
No I don't have a crack and its news to me that (according to Marcer) its cracked at all any way into the game.

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:31 am
by kristjanga
who made this game and has anyone contacted them and asked if the would give it away as freeware?
give us the sources if they have it?? :lol:

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:37 pm
by Omikronman
Crown of Creation 3D has been made by Rebelsoft. The head of the Rebelsoft team was Björn Vortisch from Germany. Unfortunately it is hard to get in contact with him these days. :-/

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:04 am
by kristjanga
well i have sent a email to him, lets see if he replies

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:27 pm
by lotek_style
Sources are not available anymore as far as I know... Björn had a harddisc-crash as far as I remember... I was in touch with him a few years ago when I was working on fading twilight and trying to get the modfiles from the game.

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:33 pm
by kristjanga
where is that crack that has cracked 80% of the game?
does anyone have it???

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:23 pm
by Dal
MacFalcon wrote:It´s a real pitty that CoC3D isn´t available new anymore :( I love that game and own 2 originals and I think I will keep them if the disks fail!

@Nick: I would give you an image of my disks, but it won´t help your customer! They still are not treated as original game disks by the installer! No chance!!! I tried that a million times, with different copy programs... I will try at work one day and use the disk clone function and a hex editor, maybe that´ll work, but I never tried that with anything else than a harddisk...


@MacFalcon: Can you copy the disks with PASTI so that we at least have a preserved copy. Its not inconceivable for both your copies to go belly up and then there'll be none.... 8O

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:36 am
by Marakatti
Dal_1978 wrote:@MacFalcon: Can you copy the disks with PASTI so that we at least have a preserved copy. Its not inconceivable for both your copies to go belly up and then there'll be none.... 8O

Pasti doesn't run on Falcon, and my guess is that the disks are in HD-format so basic ST-setup won't work. Might work with Mega STE and HD-diskdrive...

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:49 am
by nativ
Will the power Blitz copier work with HD disks?

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:59 am
by Ato
Sorry guys, I do not quite understand.

The copy protection is in hardware; as in on the floppy disc and it is checked with the 56001? How is that done? The 56001 has no direct access to the floppy drive. Any comment is very appreciated.

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:02 am
by Ato
Marakatti wrote:Pasti doesn't run on Falcon, and my guess is that the disks are in HD-format so basic ST-setup won't work. Might work with Mega STE and HD-diskdrive...


Another good reason to ask for making a Pasti library open source.

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:26 am
by kristjanga
it would be nice to have atleast 80% of the game available, as aposed to nothing!!
who was working on a crack for the game?? :megaphone:

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:49 am
by Marcer
Pervert & Orby / Elite was workin on it..

I never got a preview of it.. so I ended up with the original game instead :)

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:50 am
by Marcer
nativ wrote:Will the power Blitz copier work with HD disks?


blitz didnt even manage 11 sector disks.. :P

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:47 pm
by 030falcon030
Marcer wrote:Pervert & Orby / Elite was workin on it..

I never got a preview of it.. so I ended up with the original game instead :)


So what did they do get bored and delete their progress? Is this hack still around on one of their systems? When were they making it?
Cos I can't recall ever finding it floating about anyway or finding any more than rumours about it.

Re: Crow of Creation - Falcon

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:46 pm
by kristjanga
does anyone here know them ?
and if so can they be contacted and asked if they would release this crack even if it is not ready yet??