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Demozoo removals

Postby Rajah Lone » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:03 pm

This is not a demo title, though the subject runs as long as a demo making.

I regularly notice that my not-demoscene and out-dated versions softwares are still listed on demozoo.org and pouet.net. I asked the admins to remove them, but still no effect nor answer. For exemple: https://demozoo.org/sceners/33044/

Moreover, wanting to delete my own softwares, my account was disabled after. Please tell ltk_tscc to remove them once and for all. And also, enable my account because I'm probably the one who will have to add the compos entries after the "Alchimie treize" party (1-2-3 Nov 2019).

@lotek : stop adding (my) crap to these websites. Just ask the authors before.

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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby mikro » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:14 pm

Rajah, I understand your frustration (it applies to many of my software releases as well, not only on Demozoo but for instance also for Marcer's DVD) but once you have released something, I don't think you have right to ask other people how to treat your productions. You can ask the admins to update or change something, sure, but if they don't reply, there's nothing you can do about it. Welcome to the Internet. :)

P.S. However Lotek and the guys are actually nice people, so there's a good chance you can find some agreement.

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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby Rajah Lone » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:31 pm

Thanks, but I asked the admins and modos: no effect. I still maintain my software, I code for free, I ask nothing in return, but I consider still having the right of fatherhood: how my productions is distributed: as far I as I am concerned, I do not want old crappy versions of not-demoscene programs still available on a demoscene website. I love demoscene but I don't want my softwares related to it. These live in another category.

I asked politely Lotek a long time ago, but he fails, forgets or runs away. No chances to find an agreement, unless I shout my anger against him.

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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby Rajah Lone » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:04 am

When I ask to remove one entry on pouet.net.
To reject my argument "my crap is not demoscene stuff", Havoc quotes : pouët != scene && scene != pouët
This is insane.
Are these websites unable to remove datas?

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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby havoc » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:21 am

Thanks for those nice words spoken behind my back!
A more verbose version of my statement would be: "Not being in the "demoscene domain" (whatever that means exactly) in and of itself is not a reason for a prod to be deleted from Pouet.net." But I figured you, as an obviously skilled programmer, would also grasp the short version.

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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby wongck » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:08 am

havoc wrote:would also grasp the short version.


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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby jfl » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:58 am

I'm not getting this whole argument concerning Rajah's software but how about removing it from the website in question and be done with it?
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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby joska » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:46 am

jfl wrote:I'm not getting this whole argument concerning Rajah's software but how about removing it from the website in question and be done with it?


That is exactly what Rajah is asking demozoo to do, but he/they apparently won't...
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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby joska » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:49 am

havoc wrote:A more verbose version of my statement would be: "Not being in the "demoscene domain" (whatever that means exactly) in and of itself is not a reason for a prod to be deleted from Pouet.net." But I figured you, as an obviously skilled programmer, would also grasp the short version.


And an author's request is not a reason either?
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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby havoc » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:21 pm

joska: The commonly accepted definitions of those words are not exactly the same indeed.

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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby joska » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:51 pm

So if the author of a piece of software requests pouet to remove references to his software, then this request is not respected by pouet.
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Re: Demozoo removals

Postby havoc » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:07 pm

Every request we get is evaluated similarly and individually, and we always listen to both sides of a story. If you think those are bad habits, so be it.


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