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Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby Stefan jL » Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:30 am

What games that was released on both Amiga and Atari ST had different music compared to the both versions?

I think the following games have different music, but it was a while since i heard the Amiga versions:
Flimbos Quest
Ivanhoe
Timemachine

Please tell me if i am totally wrong with these three games :?
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Postby Stefan jL » Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:11 pm

ok.. i was wrong with flimbos quest the amiga and ST has the same music... just got the amiga tunes working in Deliplayer.

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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby Stefan jL » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:55 pm

oh... i did an search and found this old thread :)
It is still a intersting subject i think, maybe there is more members here now that know of any other games than Time Machine and Ivanhoe?
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby nativ » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:01 pm

How different do you mean?

No Second Prize has the same music... but the ST is YM

HoverSprint has the Same music both are Digi

you mean an entirely different soundtrack?
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby Stefan jL » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:15 pm

I mean different composition... not that one version is digi and the other is YM :)
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby tresas » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:39 pm

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Postby christos » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:42 pm

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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby lotek_style » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:04 am

There are many more... esp some of the digital tunes are totally different on the ST then on the Amiga (Pretty strange to me as the Amiga provides a digital music already)... If I remember correctly BAAL is such an example.
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Postby tresas » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:46 pm

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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby Xerus » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:09 am

In Ghost Batlle, the musics of the level 2 are not the same.
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Postby dlfrsilver » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:15 pm

shadow warriors, the music is different from the one on amiga.
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby junosix » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:24 pm

Klax.

Actually I'm pretty sure quite a few games where Matt Furniss did the music for are different.

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Postby Fenix » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:56 pm

The german anthem in civ was different between the atari and amiga versions

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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby Stefan jL » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:07 pm

In Ghouls'n Ghosts so is it only the level 1 music that is different?

Here is the list so far.. i have not checked all myself but i try and mark those games that only has partial different music with a " * " :)

Ivanhoe
Time Machine
Ghouls'n Ghost's*
Epic
Toki*
Baal
Blood Money
Ghost Battle*
Shadow Warriors
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Civ??
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby NGF » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:27 am

Civ has the same music on both formats. But Flimbo's Quest, they are really different compositions to my ear.

Other games with different compositions between formats:
Escape From The Planet Of The Robot Monsters
Final Fight (different titlemusic, amiga has no ingame music)
Predator
Zombi (title music is different, amiga is missing the ingame music)

Maybe I could mention Rampage (amiga has no music?).

Ghouls & Ghosts also have different music at the "attract mode".

Also I have difficulty to hear the similarities in the music for Lethal Weapon?
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Postby leglod » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:10 pm

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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby Stefan jL » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:17 pm

ok Civ does not not have differnt german anthem then... or?

Hmm.. Flimbos Quest could be differnt but some parts are identical, i am not able to tell if they are remixes or just have small identical parts from the Amiga version, i guess they are so modified they could count as new music :)

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Ivanhoe
Time Machine
Ghouls'n Ghost's*
Epic
Toki*
Baal
Blood Money
Ghost Battle*
Shadow Warriors
Klax
Escape from the Planet of Robot Monsters
Final Fight
Predator
Zombi
Rampage
Flimbos Quest*
Carvup

BTW the ST Rampage music was also used for the C-64 game IO :)

ST carvup has some really catchy ingame music.
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby NGF » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:33 am

Civ: Maybe one song or two are different in amiga and ST, but PC/Amiga/ST have mostly the same compositions.

Thanks for the tip about IO, didn't know that :)
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Postby DarkLord » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:38 pm

Was listening to a youtube video of the opening to Ultima V,
and the Amiga version seems quite different than the Atari
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby tresas » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:40 pm

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I love the sound of ST version...
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby MiggyMog » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:31 am

Logical demo also had a digital intro which never ended up in full game. Very good chip music though!
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby Xerus » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:53 am

You can add Sly spy in the list !
By the way the amiga version has few music, only 4 or 5.

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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby Stefan jL » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:39 am

Updated list:
Ivanhoe
Time Machine
Ghouls'n Ghost's*
Epic
Toki*
Baal
Blood Money
Ghost Battle*
Shadow Warriors
Klax
Escape from the Planet of Robot Monsters
Final Fight
Predator
Zombi
Rampage
Flimbos Quest*
Carvup
Ultima 5
Logical
Sly Spy*
Civilization*
Wolfchild

Marked Sly Spy as having partial different music but i have not listened myself on it. Or is it completly differnt?
Added Civilization but is still unsure?
Also Wolfchil is added, i could not hear that the onlys song in the ST version is the same as any of the Amiga ones... please correct me if i am wrong :)
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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby dma » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:29 pm

For completist information, Stardust Amiga and Stardust STe got different musics on tunnel sequences.

All original Amiga tunes have been composed by Risto Vuori (RIB/Bloodsuckers). Check "sd*" and "stardust*" here : http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detai ... &view=6232
STe specific tunnel tunes have been composed by Tero Kostermaa (Teque/Armada). Check "sdst*" here : http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detai ... &view=7347

I guess the mod replay routine used on STe for the tunnel sequences doesn't implement "volume" tracker commands (Cxx & Axx), which are most certainly CPU intensive without the Amiga PAULA sound processor.
Because both STe and Amiga tunnel tunes use 3 channels, but no volume command is used in the STe tunes.

[EDIT] It seems my assumption is correct, reading Teque own website : http://teque.planet-d.net/music_game.htm
Specs V1: Ye olde 15inst mod format
All songs share same sample set
3rd ch only one sample w/offset fx
4th channel used for game sfx
Specs V2: Same as above
Except no volume commands allowed...

Then also using a fixed frequency sample on channel 3 (the "Prodigy" beat sample).

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Re: Atari ST and Amiga games with different music?

Postby Stefan jL » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:58 pm

Thanks for the Stardust info :)
So the "fix" mods are the STE ones then.
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