TOS1.4 into Eprom ?

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TOS1.4 into Eprom ?

Postby exxos » Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:11 am

Hi all,

I'm wanting to blow a copy of TOS1.4 into a Eprom since one of my machines only has TOS1.0! If I split the 192K eprom image into HI-LO chuncks I think they will blow into 2x 27C512K Eproms ? I should be able to just swap them for the chips already there, though I feel that the enable pin on the TOS chips might have been inverted.

Has anyone done this before ?

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Postby exxos » Sun Apr 13, 2003 10:37 am

Actually ive worked it out meself now :)

Dont suppose anyone knows is the /ROM0 and /ROM1 selects are activated at the same time or one then the other ? It would be good to fit the whole lot into a 4meg eprom though I dont know if its possible until I can work out the HI-LO select lines. Would also have 2 meg free for another version of TOS too :o)
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Postby exxos » Sun Apr 13, 2003 11:28 am

Actually ignore the ROM select question cos they are linked together since the 68000 is 16bit and the eproms are only 8bit, must have been having a "Blonde moment" :-\
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Re: TOS1.4 into Eprom ?

Postby sergio » Wed May 14, 2003 2:02 pm

exxos wrote:I'm wanting to blow a copy of TOS1.4 into a Eprom since one of my machines only has TOS1.0!

I did the same with my STF
exxos wrote:I should be able to just swap them for the chips already there, though I feel that the enable pin on the TOS chips might have been inverted.

You'll need to bend some pins and a bit of soldering. Or you can build an adapter, so that you don't damage the EPROMs and can reprogram them later if something went wrong.
If you want the french version of 1.4, I have it.
HTH,

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Postby exxos » Wed May 14, 2003 3:47 pm

Dun worry I managed to work it out ages ago, got a pic of it on me site somewhere too!

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Re: TOS1.4 into Eprom ?

Postby leglatin » Fri Jul 18, 2003 8:14 pm

sergio wrote:If you want the french version of 1.4, I have it.


Hello to all, I'm a newbie here :D .
Let me present myself : I'm a french married man aged 36, one child,
and I'm an atari ST and MSX fan.
I still have and use my French 1.62 TOSed Atari 1040STE, i love it :) .

I'm looking for a .ROM dump (or HI/LO.BIN dump) of the french version
of the STF 1.04 Rainbow TOS to complete my French TOS dumps collection for use with WinSTon, could you help :?
The only 1.4 TOS I have is a developer's prerelease of TOS 1.4 bootable
only from disk... but I haven't the french official ROM of the 1.4 STF
Rainbow TOS :?

in exchange, and if interested I can supply to you a french version of NEWDESK.PRG which gives to any TOS the AES 3.00 french version,
and also a french working MultiTOS version :wink:

thank you a lot in advance for your help.

All my best,
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Postby Silver Surfer » Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:56 am

Hi leglatin and welcome to the forums :) I have attached a french 1.04 tos for you, hope it is to your liking.

cheers

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Postby leglatin » Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:18 pm

Silver Surfer wrote:I have attached a french 1.04 tos for you, hope it is to your liking.

Hello silver.

And thank you for your kind help :D
I downloaded your attached file and... unfortunately this 196550
byte long file is the developer's prerelease of the French TOS 1.4
bootable only from disk I already have :( (see above).
Some explanations : To rebuild back the disk with this TOS, take
- The TOS 1.0 original disk (furnished with firsts Atari STs)
with the TOS.IMG loader boot-sector
- Replace the 206554 bytes long TOS.IMG by this 196500 bytes long
TOS104FR.IMG (rename it TOS.IMG)
Boot our ST or your emul with this disk (I can supply it if needed)
and just after loading the first screen shown is :
Image
This pre-release of TOS 1.4 is dated 8th August '88.
The 'About' screen shows this :
Image
This pre-release is not the 'Rainbow TOS' only becauz
the Atari Logo is not rainbow-colored yet...
Now, if you use for example the ROM file of the US version
of the TOS 1.4 (available anywhere on the Net) you will see that :
Image
The logo is rainbow-colored :)
And what I'm looking for (and unfortunately is unavailable on the
net is :
Image
(This image is a reconstitution)
this file should be 196608 bytes long, as every other language
TOS 1.4 files...
Many people all over the world thinks that the 196550 bytes long
IMG file is the Rainbow TOS 1.4 ROM file, but it isn't. :?
So doing a real dump of this TOS, if it is not done yet, seems to be
urgent to do. Before it disappears completely... :cry:
It seems to be hard to find French Atari STFs with this Rainbow
TOS even in France becauz only few ones were sold...
In France, STFs have mostly TOS 1.2
A friend of mine has eproms of this French Rainbow TOS, but when
he tried to dump it into BIN files, the HI-LO files obtained was
not good...
Chris

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Postby Silver Surfer » Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:32 pm

I wish I could help you but I'm afraid I don't have any other tos 1.04fr rom image to offer. :( I'm no big collector of french tos roms myself but, maybe some of our french friends has what you desire.

Take care

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Postby leglatin » Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:50 pm

Hello again,

Yipeee ! I've just managed to find the french STF Rainbow TOS on the Net 8) :

http://homepage.mac.com/carlhafner/AtariTOS/FR/tos104fr.zip

Don't need to search for it anymore :D

please note that at

http://homepage.mac.com/carlhafner/AtariTOS.html

there is many other languages version of any TOS 8) ...

@+ and thanks for all your kind help
Chris from France
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Postby Zorro 2 » Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:37 pm

Well, the tos file TOS104FR.IMG isn't the version 1.04fr (badly !)

Just tale a look at the comparation of the DESKTOP.INF :

* 1.02 fr

Code: Select all

#a000000
#b000000
#c7770007000600070055200505552220770557075055507703111103
#d                                             
#E 18 11
#W 00 00 00 01 28 17 07 C:\*.*@
#W 00 00 0D 08 15 0B 00 @
#W 00 00 0E 09 15 0B 00 @
#W 00 00 0F 0A 15 0B 00 @
#M 00 00 00 FF A DISQUE@ @
#M 00 01 00 FF B DISQUE@ @
#M 00 02 00 FF C DISQUE@ @
#T 00 03 02 FF   CORBEILLE@ @
#F FF 04   @ *.*@
#D FF 01   @ *.*@
#G 03 FF   *.PRG@ @
#G 03 FF   *.APP@ @
#F 03 04   *.TOS@ @
#P 03 04   *.TTP@ @



* 1.04 fr ?

Code: Select all

#a000000
#b000000
#c???000?000<000?00;;400;0;;;4440??0;;?0?;0;;;0??03111103
#d                                             
#E 18 11
#W 00 06 00 01 28 17 09 C:\*.*@
#W 00 00 02 0B 26 09 00 @
#W 00 00 0A 0F 1A 09 00 @
#W 00 00 0E 01 1A 09 00 @
#M 00 02 00 FF C DISQUE@ @
#M 00 00 00 FF A DISQUE@ @
#M 00 01 00 FF B DISQUE@ @
#T 00 03 02 FF   CORBEILLE@ @
#F FF 04   @ *.*@
#D FF 01   @ *.*@
#G 03 FF   *.APP@ @
#G 03 FF   *.PRG@ @
#P 03 FF   *.TTP@ @
#F 03 04   *.TOS@ @



* 1.62 fr

Code: Select all

#a000000
#b000000
#c???000?000<000?00;;400;0;;;4440??0;;?0?;0;;;0??03111103
#d                                             
#E 18 11
#W 00 06 00 01 28 17 09 C:\*.*@
#W 00 00 02 0B 26 09 00 @
#W 00 00 0A 0F 1A 09 00 @
#W 00 00 0E 01 1A 09 00 @
#M 00 02 00 FF C DISQUE@ @
#M 00 00 00 FF A DISQUE@ @
#M 00 01 00 FF B DISQUE@ @
#T 00 03 02 FF   CORBEILLE@ @
#F FF 04   @ *.*@
#D FF 01   @ *.*@
#G 03 FF   *.APP@ @
#G 03 FF   *.PRG@ @
#P 03 FF   *.TTP@ @
#F 03 04   *.TOS@ @



=> 1.04fr and 1.62fr are the same, the new file version of DESKSTOP.INF date at the version 1.06 of the TOS.

When I use it on emulator, I see many bugs like a "freeze" of the mouse on the panel "Informations...".

The color of background "grey" on the version 1.04 fr (see the captures on the top topic of leglatin...) is very curious ??? (ca ma mis la puce a l'oreille... sorry for my non-french Silver)

The TOS 1.04 fr doesn't setup/install a boot application ! This speciallity date with the version 1.06 !

I'm repeat on this forum : THE TOS VERSION 1.4 CAN'T BE A RAINBOW TOS !!!!

I join the true version of this rom.
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Postby leglatin » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:20 pm

Hello Zorro 2,

And thank you for your precisions and for the ROM :D .

The essential for me is that even if this is ROM is really 1.06
version, it can run on WinSTon which now has got the same AES
than my real 1040STE 8)
I tried your ROM on WinSTon 0.5 and it works well,
but I had to change the offset 00000003:06 to 00000003:04
as if he has to be the 1.04 version of TOS...

@+
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Postby Zorro 2 » Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:47 am

Hi mister leglatin,

At first, the version 1.06 is bugged ! But the version here is -maybe - clean (bizarre ?).

I supposed that the version came from 2 CIs because it's size 192 Ko.

But I know where the TOS comes from, from an HARD emulator for PC or MAC, it's probably that ?!?

If the Tos is perfect for you to emulate, there's no problem...
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TOS 1.04 FR

Postby apostle » Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:11 pm

As near as I can tell, the French version of TOS on this page

http://homepage.mac.com/carlhafner/AtariTOS.html

is really French TOS 1.04.

I ran American TOS 1.04 and the French TOS 1.04 from that page. The Atari Extensible Control Panel>General Setup CPX>Status button shows both files as being TOS 1.04. Both have the same TOS date - 04/06/1989.

Both files also include the Install Application>Auto Start option, which was first introduced in TOS 1.04.

Lastly, when you select the Desktop menu>Desktop Information, you get the "Rainbow Fuji" icon with the colors cycling. Rainbow TOS.

fwiw

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