PLATOTerm for the Atari ST - a terminal for IRATA.ONLINE and CYBER1.ORG

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PLATOTerm for the Atari ST - a terminal for IRATA.ONLINE and CYBER1.ORG

Postby tschak909 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:51 am

As some of you know, I've been steadily working away implementing PLATO terminals for over 12 different systems, in parallel. The Atari ST version of the software finally started working in earnest, this evening...

...with the implementation of the I/O functions, the terminal starts to work! It's connecting to the service, and is interacting with it quite nicely. Text routine still needs to be replaced with calls to vrt_cpyfm() (harder than it should be), and lots of work still to be done, but it's working!

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And I recorded a video showing it in action!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdEkivyHmNU

More to come!

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Postby Gaiyan » Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:14 am

Very nice! Impressive progress in such a short time.
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Postby christos » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:20 am

Yes indeed. GEM isnt the easiest gui to code for. Well done
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Postby wongck » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:20 pm

Great step forward !!! :thumbs:
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Re: PLATOTerm for the Atari ST - a terminal for IRATA.ONLINE and CYBER1.ORG

Postby tschak909 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:36 pm

christos wrote:Yes indeed. GEM isnt the easiest gui to code for. Well done


No kidding.. !#(%@$@$(^$^@#$^@$(@^$*@ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby arf » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:00 pm

tschak909 wrote:
christos wrote:Yes indeed. GEM isnt the easiest gui to code for. Well done


No kidding.. !#(%@$@$(^$^@#$^@$(@^$*@ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ever tried System 4 or System 5 in comparison?

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Re: PLATOTerm for the Atari ST - a terminal for IRATA.ONLINE and CYBER1.ORG

Postby tschak909 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:20 pm

Yes. and I'll be doing similar for the Apple IIgs port. Still better. ;)

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Postby arf » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:29 pm

tschak909 wrote:Yes. and I'll be doing similar for the Apple IIgs port. Still better. ;)


Interesting, thanks. Never did low-level Sys5/6 programming, but the issues with memory handling, moveable pointers and the very low-level GUI routines didn’t appeal to me, compared to GEM. The only real dislike there for me was polling for events, instead of callbacks.

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Postby Cyprian » Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:54 am

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Postby DarkLord » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:04 pm

Excellent!
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Re: PLATOTerm for the Atari ST - a terminal for IRATA.ONLINE and CYBER1.ORG

Postby tschak909 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:25 pm

as i've said on AtariAge. I have a policy. Anyone who taps me on the shoulder gets current builds, whether they work, or not. :)

(mostly because I need people to test, especially because it's all very much in flux.)

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Postby Fletch » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:25 pm

Tried this on my Mega STe and Falcon030 today. Really nice. I look forward to diving in deeper soon.

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Postby piku » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:33 am

This piqued my curiosity and I learned all about control data, the Cyber line of mainframes and PLATO. This history of the company and this system is fascinating.. It's well before my time. I think it's fascinating that you actually run the server end on the desktop cyber emulator.
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Re: PLATOTerm for the Atari ST - a terminal for IRATA.ONLINE and CYBER1.ORG

Postby tschak909 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:52 am

The Control Data systems were supercomputers, quite literally, 60-bit wide registers and memory. :)

My system is available, whenever you're ready to look @ it. :)

Right now, need some help from an experienced GEM programmer to see where I am making cardinal sins in redraw code, while I fix the palette queuing code.

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Re: PLATOTerm for the Atari ST - a terminal for IRATA.ONLINE and CYBER1.ORG

Postby derkom » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:20 am

piku wrote:This piqued my curiosity and I learned all about control data, the Cyber line of mainframes and PLATO. This history of the company and this system is fascinating.. It's well before my time. I think it's fascinating that you actually run the server end on the desktop cyber emulator.


If you really want to dig into it, read The Friendly Orange Glow: The Untold Story of the PLATO System and the Dawn of Cyberculture. Quite an entertaining and thorough walk through PLATO's very interesting history.

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Re: PLATOTerm for the Atari ST - a terminal for IRATA.ONLINE and CYBER1.ORG

Postby tschak909 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:23 am

Absolutely. Brian's book is what inspired me to do this, in the first place, and I had the honor of not only telling him this, but speaking on IRATA.ONLINE immediately after his talk while we were lecturing at the Vintage Computer Federation's VCF West show at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, CA. last month. :)

(I will skyping remotely to the VCF Midwest show, this next weekend, 11am CDT, in Chicago)

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