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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:11 pm

nagual wrote:Ah, I forgot, thank you for link for NewSDK - VERY interesting stuff I found in that CD :-)

Do you have maybe Atari SDK 1999 Update - it was name of the CD.
I had this CD, but I can't found it anymore...


I thought I did. I have the 5 disk SDK from 1991 and I can only find this other one atm. Not sure what year it is:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby Maartau » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:52 pm

Thanks a lot again :D !

Got one question about "Kobold", anybody knows if sources will be released or already available ?

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby penguin » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:21 pm

TheNameOfTheGame wrote:
nagual wrote:Ah, I forgot, thank you for link for NewSDK - VERY interesting stuff I found in that CD :-)

Do you have maybe Atari SDK 1999 Update - it was name of the CD.
I had this CD, but I can't found it anymore...


I thought I did. I have the 5 disk SDK from 1991 and I can only find this other one atm. Not sure what year it is:

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That's the first one (and the one I used for NewSDK). The Update has the word "Upgrade" in big letters on the cover. It was also sold together with the first one so I'm not sure if everything that's on SDK 1 is also on SDK 2...
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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby nagual » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:43 pm

penguin wrote:
TheNameOfTheGame wrote:
nagual wrote:Ah, I forgot, thank you for link for NewSDK - VERY interesting stuff I found in that CD :-)

Do you have maybe Atari SDK 1999 Update - it was name of the CD.
I had this CD, but I can't found it anymore...


I thought I did. I have the 5 disk SDK from 1991 and I can only find this other one atm. Not sure what year it is:

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That's the first one (and the one I used for NewSDK). The Update has the word "Upgrade" in big letters on the cover. It was also sold together with the first one so I'm not sure if everything that's on SDK 1 is also on SDK 2...


Yes, it was big letters "Upgrade", and it was a big different between SDK and Upgrade CD - newer releases, a lot of fixes, new documents etc...

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:43 pm

penguin wrote:That's the first one (and the one I used for NewSDK). The Update has the word "Upgrade" in big letters on the cover. It was also sold together with the first one so I'm not sure if everything that's on SDK 1 is also on SDK 2...


Ah ok, thanks, I'll keep looking then.

Added Face Value 3.2 pl6 German user guide converted from hypertext. :cheers:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby nagual » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:51 pm

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penguin wrote:That's the first one (and the one I used for NewSDK). The Update has the word "Upgrade" in big letters on the cover. It was also sold together with the first one so I'm not sure if everything that's on SDK 1 is also on SDK 2...


Ah ok, thanks, I'll keep looking then.

Added Face Value 3.2 pl6 German user guide converted from hypertext. :cheers:


Thank you ! :cheers:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:35 am

nagual wrote:
TheNameOfTheGame wrote:
penguin wrote:That's the first one (and the one I used for NewSDK). The Update has the word "Upgrade" in big letters on the cover. It was also sold together with the first one so I'm not sure if everything that's on SDK 1 is also on SDK 2...


Ah ok, thanks, I'll keep looking then.

Added Face Value 3.2 pl6 German user guide converted from hypertext. :cheers:


Thank you ! :cheers:


Cheers! It is strange because several sections are in English lol. And some sections are "ToDo". I think the documentation was a work in progress, but it is mostly there.

Here is the cover artwork for NewSDK from Matthias Jaap. Full size is included as an attachment for those who want to print their own. :cheers:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:34 am

Thanks Nick for all the memories and great software from 16/32. :(

Best of luck in all your future endeavors. :cheers:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby nagual » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:19 am

TheNameOfTheGame wrote:
nagual wrote:
TheNameOfTheGame wrote:
Ah ok, thanks, I'll keep looking then.

Added Face Value 3.2 pl6 German user guide converted from hypertext. :cheers:


Thank you ! :cheers:


Cheers! It is strange because several sections are in English lol. And some sections are "ToDo". I think the documentation was a work in progress, but it is mostly there.

Here is the cover artwork for NewSDK from Matthias Jaap. Full size is included as an attachment for those who want to print their own. :cheers:

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NewSDK.zip



Thank you ! :cheers:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:46 pm

Another ASH classic - Added PureC 1.1 English, PureC 1.1 German and PureC 1.1 Documents and Extras. :cheers:
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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby nagual » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:18 pm

Thank you:-)

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:27 pm

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wongck wrote:
nagual wrote: - how you convert HYP to PDF ?

Probably easiest is to open in winguide and then print to acrobat.
I mean I will probably do that but I have not done that before.


But the problem is WinGuide - you can print only one page, not all hYP...
Maybe convert to HTML and then print from Acrobat ?

Or, maybe you can write a small utility to convert HYP to PDF ? :D :D :D :D



Yes, that would be awesome! Especially if it could keep the hyperlinks from the HYP file in the PDF. Also, converting to PDF opens the possibility to do computer-assisted translations while keeping the document format.

We have a HYP2GDOS, why not a HYP2PDF? Probably only wongck has the knowledge to do it though. (It would be great to get Gerhard Stoll's TOS.HYP into a clickable PDF format)

In the meantime, added Ergo!Pro 3.2 German user guide. :cheers:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby lp » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:03 pm

The HCP tool supplied with ST-Guide can decode then back into ASCII stg format. However, I have found that HCP is buggy and seems to fail on large HYP files. I wrote my own decoder that will decode the ones HCP will not. Currently it converts them to HTML. I suppose it could be adapted to write PDF. Is there some easy to follow guide for generating PDF files?

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby wongck » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:38 pm

Well, if it is already in HTML then you just print them to Adobe Acrobat or equivalent.
If on the Atari, use PH ERP and sent to save in Google Docs, and Google will convert to PDF for you.

I am sure there's online HTML to PDF converters as well.
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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby wongck » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:46 pm

Lonny, I already told and given you the information on pdf some few months back, albeit not too easy to use.
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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby lp » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:51 pm

My HYP2HTML output generates one massive page instead of converting all the nodes into tons of small files. It didn't occur to me that there was online tools for this. If such a conversion maintains the links, that would be awesome. Will do some tests.

I had no luck with the PDF stuff you suggested before. PDF format seems overly complex.

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby penguin » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:59 pm

Soundman (also on AM):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/khgvnnw0ozfbixf/SOUNDMAN.LZH?dl=1

HomePage Pinguin Pro 2.0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i80vmmwj2stbk2h/HomePagePinguin%20Pro%202.0%20Falke.lzh?dl=1

Soundman was given to me by my music teacher back in the day. He used the ST mainly for mail chess, where two players would send their moves via snail mail. My teacher used Psion Chess to improve his play and later upgraded to a PC because there were stronger chess programs for DOS available. If his chess opponents also used computers, it was probably the slowest game between two computers imaginable :lol:
Soundman is a simple sheet-based music editor using the ST's sound chip. It was released by Galactic Software, more well known for Digit I and II.

HomePage Pinguin 2.0 was the first commercial release of HPP. It was the publisher's idea to keep the German word for penguin and attach a "pro" the program's name. When I switched to another distributor, I quickly changed the name to HomePage Penguin and dropped the "pro" for the 3.0 version.

By the way, the full version of Neon Grafix 3D was also released on CD a few years after the app was discontinued.
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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby Atarieterno » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:20 pm

:cheers:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby nagual » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:36 pm

penguin wrote:Soundman (also on AM):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/khgvnnw0ozfbixf/SOUNDMAN.LZH?dl=1

HomePage Pinguin Pro 2.0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i80vmmwj2stbk2h/HomePagePinguin%20Pro%202.0%20Falke.lzh?dl=1

Soundman was given to me by my music teacher back in the day. He used the ST mainly for mail chess, where two players would send their moves via snail mail. My teacher used Psion Chess to improve his play and later upgraded to a PC because there were stronger chess programs for DOS available. If his chess opponents also used computers, it was probably the slowest game between two computers imaginable :lol:
Soundman is a simple sheet-based music editor using the ST's sound chip. It was released by Galactic Software, more well known for Digit I and II.

HomePage Pinguin 2.0 was the first commercial release of HPP. It was the publisher's idea to keep the German word for penguin and attach a "pro" the program's name. When I switched to another distributor, I quickly changed the name to HomePage Penguin and dropped the "pro" for the 3.0 version.

By the way, the full version of Neon Grafix 3D was also released on CD a few years after the app was discontinued.



Thank You :-) :cheers:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:35 pm

nagual wrote:
penguin wrote:Soundman (also on AM):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/khgvnnw0ozfbixf/SOUNDMAN.LZH?dl=1

HomePage Pinguin Pro 2.0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i80vmmwj2stbk2h/HomePagePinguin%20Pro%202.0%20Falke.lzh?dl=1

Soundman was given to me by my music teacher back in the day. He used the ST mainly for mail chess, where two players would send their moves via snail mail. My teacher used Psion Chess to improve his play and later upgraded to a PC because there were stronger chess programs for DOS available. If his chess opponents also used computers, it was probably the slowest game between two computers imaginable :lol:
Soundman is a simple sheet-based music editor using the ST's sound chip. It was released by Galactic Software, more well known for Digit I and II.

HomePage Pinguin 2.0 was the first commercial release of HPP. It was the publisher's idea to keep the German word for penguin and attach a "pro" the program's name. When I switched to another distributor, I quickly changed the name to HomePage Penguin and dropped the "pro" for the 3.0 version.

By the way, the full version of Neon Grafix 3D was also released on CD a few years after the app was discontinued.



Thank You :-) :cheers:


I second that! :cheers:

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby stokowski » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:13 pm

Hi,
thank you all for the great stuff. I´m searching for the atari scholastic titles (arrakis) which were sold in the U.S. by atari. Are there any download links for these titles (biology, chemistry, physics...).
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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:02 pm

Small update...Added iPRN 2.02 English user guide and iPRN 2.02 German user guide.

Does anyone have the German CPX for iPRN 2.02?

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby Playmobil » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:39 pm

TheNameOfTheGame :

All docs are in PDF format, but can you put the .HYP too ?

Thanks in advance, if it's possible...

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby TheNameOfTheGame » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:53 pm

Playmobil wrote:TheNameOfTheGame :

All docs are in PDF format, but can you put the .HYP too ?

Thanks in advance, if it's possible...


Sure, not all of them have a HYP, but I can put up the ones I have. :cheers:

*Edit* The hypertexts I could find are up.

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Re: A couple abandonware apps

Postby Playmobil » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:55 am

Big thanks !


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