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Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby deeez » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:15 pm

Hi,

Last night I tried latest Thing 1.50 from atari-forge and it crashes almost immediately.
I can briefly see the menus and icons on the desktop and then it crashes. I tried both in mint and singletos.

Am I missing some install or config step perhaps?

I'm using a falcon CT60 with 14MB stram and 128MB ttram. I also have a supervidel installed if that makes a difference, though I did test Thing both with and without the supervidel active.

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby rudis » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:28 pm

at first it crashed here too (aranym emu). then i tried rename the thing.inf and success. i could browse the menu and open info and settings dialog. but i cant open a drive

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby frank.lukas » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:22 pm

On a Atari Mega ST it bombs ...
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby jfl » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:31 pm

For me too, I can't open a drive/folder: complete freezing of my Firebee.
Edit: font selector freezes the machine too.
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby Faucon2001 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:57 pm

On aranym-jit + emutos + Mint 1.19 + FVDI : it doesn't even start, crash from the start.
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby bladeomega » Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:33 am

frank.lukas wrote:On a Atari Mega ST it bombs ...

Thing 1.50 is for 68020-CF CPU Compiled

Edit: 68000 too
Last edited by bladeomega on Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:29 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby frank.lukas » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:03 am

bladeomega wrote:
frank.lukas wrote:On a Atari Mega ST it bombs ...

Thing 1.50 is for 68020-CFCPU Compiled


That is very, very bad ...
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby jfl » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:18 am

Faucon2001 wrote:On aranym-jit + emutos + Mint 1.19 + FVDI : it doesn't even start, crash from the start.

See rudis comment above. You might need to rename the provided thing.inf file.

Edit: strange, Thing starts fine with the default thing.inf file for me with ARAnyM. And I can also open drive windows. The font selector still makes it crash, though.
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby Faucon2001 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:11 am

Thanks Jean Francois,
I removed thing.inf : same result indeed. Immediate crash with Aranym-jit + emutos + FVDI + Mint 1.19
I did a test under a vanilla aranym + TOS 4.04 without any accs nor auto prg : it starts, I can briefly see Thing desktop, then crashes with 2 bombs
I am using Aranym 1.0.2.2 under Xubuntu.

That's strange than it works (a little) for some of you, and not for others.
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby gstoll » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:08 am

bladeomega wrote: Thing 1.50 is for 68020-CFCPU Compiled

From where is that information? Thing 1.50 is comiled with with PureC and for 68000.

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby gstoll » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:09 am

jfl wrote:The font selector still makes it crash, though.

Which version do you use (date in the info dialog)?

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby jfl » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:49 am

gstoll wrote:
jfl wrote:The font selector still makes it crash, though.

Which version do you use (date in the info dialog)?

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby wongck » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:31 pm

:D Thanks for point this out.

I tried it and seems to be working OK on my Mint 1.19.... somewhat OK if you avoid doing something (like touch font selector).
Running on Aranym 1,02, emutos,
No special config in XaAES, I just comment TERADESK and uncomment THING section and modify the pathname.

1. I had been trying to install Speedo without success and so my NVDI is off.... so THING 1.50 seems to start and run OK.
2. I reinstall back NVDi and it is working now with NVDI :mrgreen:
3. The original download archives seems to try to open some H: drive development folders (not available on my system).
The Installed Applications seems to be pointing to drive D: (like QED for example... not on my system)
This may be the reason why renaming the INF file works., but I did not have to do that. \
A bunch of stuff needs to be configured to get it in useable form.
4. Touching the Font selector.... crashes it, may be because I do not any GDOS.

There is a ] character on all the dialog boxes text, I guess it is a marker for hot-keys.
I normally right-click as a double on Teradesk.... this one brings up a menu (don't get me wrong, context menu is good) I just need to get use to it.
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby wongck » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:54 pm

Thing does not come up and it looks like hanging on the FireBee.
I think it is just running very slowly as the mouse cursor moves ever so little (1-2 pixel) when you move the mouse.
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby bladeomega » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:58 pm

gstoll wrote:
bladeomega wrote: Thing 1.50 is for 68020-CFCPU Compiled

From where is that information? Thing 1.50 is comiled with with PureC and for 68000.

Sorry Gehard, this was a mistake from me.

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby gstoll » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:28 pm

wongck wrote:4. Touching the Font selector.... crashes it, may be because I do not any GDOS.

It has nothing to do with GDOS. I don't know why but the dialog crash in objc_draw, when he is called as Font selector. When he called if a drive window open then it works.
No matter how, I add a object in the dialog and it works. After delete them it works also. :?:

wongck wrote:There is a ] character on all the dialog boxes text, I guess it is a marker for hot-keys.

Fix in the release from yesterday. Not the error with the Font selector.

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby frank.lukas » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:48 pm

I try the new Beta on my Atari Mega ST4 with 8MB Alternate Ram and a ET4000 Graphiccard driven by NVDI ET4000. With 256 Colours the Screen destroyed when started Thing. With the Screen in Black and White over the Graphiccard the Mouse and the Keyboard doesn´t work anymore.

When I started Thing without the INF File the Mouse/Keyboard is working but when I save a INF File Thing crashes ...
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby mfro » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:30 am

gstoll wrote:...No matter how, I add a object in the dialog and it works. After delete them it works also. :?: ...


At a glance, handleEditfields() looks dubious to me.

It loops over the children chain of a parent object, but doesn't check for i == ob_tail (when the last object of the children points back to the parent object). I would assume this going wild if the searched object is not found before the end of the chain. An ob_next field of a child object can never be NIL (-1), it always points back to the parent at the end of the children list.

P.S.: never mind. Correct myself, handleEditfields() is o.k., got how it's supposed to work.

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby 1SPA » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:59 am

Is this program, thing 1.5 or later, still available anywhere?

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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby jfl » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:51 am

1SPA wrote:Is this program, thing 1.5 or later, still available anywhere?

It was on AtariForge, which has been down for a while. I'm not sure it's available anywhere else yet, but people are bound to have sources and binaries of it (edit: see this post: http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=335947#p335947). But unless you're interested in the sources, you won't gain anything with 1.50 over 1.27/1.29.
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Re: Thing 1.50 crashes

Postby ggn » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:31 pm

jfl wrote:
1SPA wrote:Is this program, thing 1.5 or later, still available anywhere?

It was on AtariForge, which has been down for a while. I'm not sure it's available anywhere else yet, but people are bound to have sources and binaries of it (edit: see this post: http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=335947#p335947). But unless you're interested in the sources, you won't gain anything with 1.50 over 1.27/1.29.


v1.5 sources should also be here: https://github.com/ggnkua/Atari_ST_Sour ... lzel/thing
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