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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby calimero » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:49 pm

cb170 wrote:I'm also ad tagging everything as well (though this is not exposed yet on the public site) so eventually you'll be able to search, for example, "show me all the C-Lab adverts for 1987" - there's a lot more of the ads like the excellent ones you've posted here.

Thanks for the nice thread! :thumbs:

I am not author of this thread! Atarieterno is! :)

I only enjoy in pictures that he post here, same as you :)

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how you manage tags on technical level? Do you wrote tags in jpgs metadata or you have some database that hold information about tags for every image...? How do you organize data? Do you use key:value pairs... or just simple tagging ("1987" you do not know that it is a year...)?
Maybe I ask to technical questions ... :coffe:
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby cb170 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:49 pm

It’s all databased in a custom-built CMS. Each issue has a publication, year, month etc, each article is tied to a given issue, articles have different types, and metadata (like synths or drum machines, or a topic, or an artist etc etc), and other things.

So if you search for articles in the “80s”, we search all issues from 1980 to 1990. If you search for gear category of “Software: Sequencer/DAW” with a manufacturer of “Steinberg” you get those. How you build the metadata determines what tools you can implement to query the data.

As far as ad tagging goes, I’m storing eg “Issue SOS June 1992, page 21-22 is a C-Lab Notator, and Sound Technology advert”. Each page with an ad gets one or more ad records linking to particular gear items, or types, or vendors etc.
So not only can I search all Notator articles too, I can also bring back the ads for Notator. Or eg all Sampler adverts from the 80s etc etc.

So it's a relational database, not just text keywords. Does that make sense?

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby calimero » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:11 pm

@cb170 it make sense :) thanks for explanation!


I just found GREAT, fresh article about Atari ST and impact on music:

http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/20 ... nstruments

many, many names was mentioned in article: Jean Michael Jare, Pet Shop Boys, Depeche Mode.... e.g. I did not know that Emagic/C-Lab Notator (Logic) was developed by Dr. Gerhard Lengeling, former Steinberg programmer! (btw Gerhard work as surgeon! :))

Great, great article! I hope you will enjoy!
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby cb170 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:55 pm

Thanks for the link!

calimero wrote:@I did not know that Emagic/C-Lab Notator (Logic) was developed by Dr. Gerhard Lengeling, former Steinberg programmer! (btw Gerhard work as surgeon! :))


Yes, Notator and Logic were Gerhard's babies (along with Chris Adam - responsible for the score page in Notator - and Clemens Homburg).

Gerhard was never a Steinberg programmer, afaik - that part of the article is I think incorrect, but there was a relationship there (but yes, he *was* a medical doctor).

C-Lab/emagic did have a fun rivalry with Steinberg though - he told me some fun stories back in the day! As far as I can recall, Charlie Steinberg showed him the fundamentals of sequencer programming, and Gerhard went off and wrote his C64 sequencer - but obviously, this led to both *the* major Atari sequencer software companies being based in Hamburg, and in competition with each other. I was always team Notator/Logic and was never a fan of Pro24 or Cubase, and I still run (and love) Logic to this day, some 30 years later from my first purchase of Creator...

Gerhard's now based in California, running the Apple audio software team, responsible for Logic, Garageband, and Mainstage.... Super nice guy too, the whole team were, when I went over there back in the day...

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby Atarieterno » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:06 pm

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Re: Atari and Music.

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby charles » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:50 am

yeah !!! hybrid arts .....#1 !!!!!!!! best recorders and keyboard assistance ,,,,,ive had good experiences since 1999 with them ...thank you Robert moore

http://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/hybri ... t-track/50

http://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/hybri ... track/3503

https://www.atarimagazines.com/startv3n ... track.html
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby 607 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:04 pm

Interesting stuff!

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby edingacic » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:40 am

cb170 wow nice work - if I can host a mirror let me know

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby charles » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:55 pm

atari is my lifestyle,not a hobby.
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby Saturnin51 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:13 pm

And don't forget the fantastic Jean-Michel Jarre concert at Paris - La Défense with 11 Atari Mega STE on stage, on 14th July 1990. See it on Youtube !
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby calimero » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:51 pm

11?

Like there was 11 computers?!?
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby Saturnin51 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:43 pm

Yes. Jean-Michel JARRE (Oxygene a world hit, the music of Captain Blood and more) used Atari machine for him and his work. And more he think about a specific machine, the Digisequencer and then the MAtrisequencer, created by his sound engineer based on a Mega ST motherboard. See HERE
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby charles » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:36 pm

another Atari" in the wild "siteing ...1:15 micheal geiss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwmA7nDnAAI
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby Atarieterno » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:36 am

"Musicians and the Atari ST" (by Atari Corporation).
All of the Animation, Music and Sound Effects in this production were created or edited using the ATARI ST COMPUTER.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/w485bh2st ... ari_ST.mp4

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby DarkLord » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:23 pm

Nice. :)
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby wongck » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:57 pm

Atarieterno wrote:"Musicians and the Atari ST" (by Atari Corporation).

Thanks for sharing. I knew musician used Atari but Wow looks like really a lot of movies have Atari doing also the sound effects.
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby atarian90 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:52 pm

:D Woohoo! Thank you Atarieterno! I have been looking for this video for ages. I read about it in all those ads in magazines, advertisements even in the Atari corporate shareholder newsletters, but am surprised it never showed up in my Youtube searches.

I'll be setting aside 30 minutes after typing this to watch it.

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby Atarieterno » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:19 pm

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Re: Atari and Music.

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby Atarieterno » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:02 pm

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Re: Atari and Music.

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby dbsys » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:39 pm

Atarieterno wrote:"Musicians and the Atari ST" (by Atari Corporation).
All of the Animation, Music and Sound Effects in this production were created or edited using the ATARI ST COMPUTER.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/w485bh2st ... ari_ST.mp4

Musicians and the Atari ST.jpg


Awesome!

Where did you find this nice piece of history?

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby Atarieterno » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:46 pm

That video was published by James in the facebook group where we met the old Atarian musicians: "Atari ST musicians network"; and I have shared it here with the rest of the Atari world.
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby Atarieterno » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:22 pm

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