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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby calimero » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:49 pm

cb170 wrote:I'm also ad tagging everything as well (though this is not exposed yet on the public site) so eventually you'll be able to search, for example, "show me all the C-Lab adverts for 1987" - there's a lot more of the ads like the excellent ones you've posted here.

Thanks for the nice thread! :thumbs:

I am not author of this thread! Atarieterno is! :)

I only enjoy in pictures that he post here, same as you :)

btw
how you manage tags on technical level? Do you wrote tags in jpgs metadata or you have some database that hold information about tags for every image...? How do you organize data? Do you use key:value pairs... or just simple tagging ("1987" you do not know that it is a year...)?
Maybe I ask to technical questions ... :coffe:
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby cb170 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:49 pm

It’s all databased in a custom-built CMS. Each issue has a publication, year, month etc, each article is tied to a given issue, articles have different types, and metadata (like synths or drum machines, or a topic, or an artist etc etc), and other things.

So if you search for articles in the “80s”, we search all issues from 1980 to 1990. If you search for gear category of “Software: Sequencer/DAW” with a manufacturer of “Steinberg” you get those. How you build the metadata determines what tools you can implement to query the data.

As far as ad tagging goes, I’m storing eg “Issue SOS June 1992, page 21-22 is a C-Lab Notator, and Sound Technology advert”. Each page with an ad gets one or more ad records linking to particular gear items, or types, or vendors etc.
So not only can I search all Notator articles too, I can also bring back the ads for Notator. Or eg all Sampler adverts from the 80s etc etc.

So it's a relational database, not just text keywords. Does that make sense?

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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby calimero » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:11 pm

@cb170 it make sense :) thanks for explanation!


I just found GREAT, fresh article about Atari ST and impact on music:

http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/20 ... nstruments

many, many names was mentioned in article: Jean Michael Jare, Pet Shop Boys, Depeche Mode.... e.g. I did not know that Emagic/C-Lab Notator (Logic) was developed by Dr. Gerhard Lengeling, former Steinberg programmer! (btw Gerhard work as surgeon! :))

Great, great article! I hope you will enjoy!
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Re: Atari and Music.

Postby cb170 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:55 pm

Thanks for the link!

calimero wrote:@I did not know that Emagic/C-Lab Notator (Logic) was developed by Dr. Gerhard Lengeling, former Steinberg programmer! (btw Gerhard work as surgeon! :))


Yes, Notator and Logic were Gerhard's babies (along with Chris Adam - responsible for the score page in Notator - and Clemens Homburg).

Gerhard was never a Steinberg programmer, afaik - that part of the article is I think incorrect, but there was a relationship there (but yes, he *was* a medical doctor).

C-Lab/emagic did have a fun rivalry with Steinberg though - he told me some fun stories back in the day! As far as I can recall, Charlie Steinberg showed him the fundamentals of sequencer programming, and Gerhard went off and wrote his C64 sequencer - but obviously, this led to both *the* major Atari sequencer software companies being based in Hamburg, and in competition with each other. I was always team Notator/Logic and was never a fan of Pro24 or Cubase, and I still run (and love) Logic to this day, some 30 years later from my first purchase of Creator...

Gerhard's now based in California, running the Apple audio software team, responsible for Logic, Garageband, and Mainstage.... Super nice guy too, the whole team were, when I went over there back in the day...


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