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by ThorstenOtto
Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:28 am
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: uDump 1.01
Replies: 4
Views: 474

Re: uDump 1.01

leech wrote:Do we have any missing TOS versions left? I'm just glad I could contribute one.


The other language specific versions of 3.05 ;) I've seen some for 2.05, but not 3.05.
by ThorstenOtto
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:13 pm
Forum: Other emulators & tools
Topic: Tool to dump STe ROM?
Replies: 25
Views: 2677

Re: Tool to dump STe ROM?

leech wrote:Wow, talk about a huge waste of ROM space!


I think the main reason is that essentially the same TOS was used for both TT and MSTe, but the latter only has 256K rom.
by ThorstenOtto
Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Other emulators & tools
Topic: Tool to dump STe ROM?
Replies: 25
Views: 2677

Re: Tool to dump STe ROM?

Here's my contribution in the contest "smallest tool to dump TOS 3/4 image" :) Compressed 179 bytes, uncompressed 84 bytes. Come on, that can be done better ;) As a start: ⋅ you don't need to set up a stack, the OS already does that. ⋅ You can use Pterm0() instead of P...
by ThorstenOtto
Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:19 am
Forum: Other emulators & tools
Topic: Tool to dump STe ROM?
Replies: 25
Views: 2677

Re: Tool to dump STe ROM?

leech wrote:Here we go.


Nice.

Funny enough the zip file is only 5KB larger than the other one. Lots of space for improvements? :P


Yes, that was to be expected. From the last 256K, only ~25K are actually used.
by ThorstenOtto
Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:30 pm
Forum: Other emulators & tools
Topic: Tool to dump STe ROM?
Replies: 25
Views: 2677

Re: Tool to dump STe ROM?

mikro wrote:(unless I overlooked some magic meaning to this)


Oops. No, nothing overlooked, just a bad copy&paste. Attachment updated.

if you're willing to improve it with your tool's features, I wont say no.


Feel free to copy anything you want to ;)
by ThorstenOtto
Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:24 pm
Forum: Other emulators & tools
Topic: Tool to dump STe ROM?
Replies: 25
Views: 2677

Re: Tool to dump STe ROM?

Sigh. Mikro was faster :) Can't be that difficult to write a simple utitlity like that. Here's my try
by ThorstenOtto
Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:19 pm
Forum: Coding
Topic: Help Compiling TOS 2.06/2.08/3.06 in any language
Replies: 160
Views: 23028

Re: Help Compiling TOS 2.06/2.08/3.06 in any language

Sigh. Mikro was faster :) Can't be that difficult to write a simple utitlity like that. Here's my try
by ThorstenOtto
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:38 am
Forum: Coding
Topic: Help Compiling TOS 2.06/2.08/3.06 in any language
Replies: 160
Views: 23028

Re: Help Compiling TOS 2.06/2.08/3.06 in any language

leech wrote:Here it is.

Sysinfo said it's build date was 5/12/90, the label on the chips themselves say 12/7/90.


Nice, but... looks like the 2nd half is missing?
by ThorstenOtto
Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:17 am
Forum: Coding
Topic: Help Compiling TOS 2.06/2.08/3.06 in any language
Replies: 160
Views: 23028

Re: Help Compiling TOS 2.06/2.08/3.06 in any language

Actually, this is not 100% true. Damn, you got me ;) Yes, there are some small differences, but nothing spectacular. Most of them are not user visible, so i didn't bother to explain them all. I know about at least one instance where 2.05/2.06 do not contain bugfix which 3.05/3.06 do: Hm, i can't re...
by ThorstenOtto
Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: News & Announcements
Topic: GEMBENCH 6
Replies: 125
Views: 31488

Re: GEMBENCH 6

Btw I have to say that I find such tools useless on emulated "go as fast as possible" machines. These machines are so fast that the numbers are pointless. It is still useful to compare different emulators on the same machine. And also for developers, to compare different versions of the s...
by ThorstenOtto
Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:53 am
Forum: C / PASCAL etc.
Topic: Aegis Animator
Replies: 6
Views: 1455

Re: Aegis Animator

Update: with a few bits filled out, the source could be build, and morpa has made it available here . Some information about the history can be found here . You will need Megamax to compile it, but a pre-compiled program is also available in the release directory. Feel free to try it out! Although t...
by ThorstenOtto
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:52 pm
Forum: C / PASCAL etc.
Topic: gcc 7.1 for the ST series
Replies: 91
Views: 14362

Re: gcc 7.1 for the ST series

[ So in my tests here I didn't have to add "-Ttext=0" at all. Can you try that on your built compiler and see if LDFLAGS_FOR_TARGET is the same as the above? LDFLAGS_FOR_TARGET is only used while building the compiler. It is not used when compiling your programs with that compiler, for th...
by ThorstenOtto
Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:32 pm
Forum: Professionals
Topic: Atari TT030 and system V
Replies: 325
Views: 87459

Re: Atari TT030 and system V

Galvez wrote:Note that the Debian kernel does not use initrd to boot (to the
finally installed system)


The one that i used (3.16), *uses* initrd. Its about 4.5MB. But it only boots into console mode.
by ThorstenOtto
Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Professionals
Topic: Atari TT030 and system V
Replies: 325
Views: 87459

Re: Atari TT030 and system V

I think to remember that one of the problems was that the kernel should be loaded in ST-RAM to work. I don't know how large a m68k kernel would be, but on a pc the bz2 compressed kernel is ~8MB. It would be impossible to load&decompress it in ST-RAM. Edit: found some 4.0.0 kernel, which is ~1.7...
by ThorstenOtto
Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Professionals
Topic: Atari TT030 and system V
Replies: 325
Views: 87459

Re: Atari TT030 and system V

It's even slow on Aranym which is magnitudes faster than a TT. I'm not sure whether Aranym is really magnitudes faster in this case. Remember that, unlike eg. qemu, Aranym also emulates the MMU, and all kernel code. MMU emulation slows down Aranym quite a lot, and JIT can't be used with MMU either....
by ThorstenOtto
Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: Professionals
Topic: Atari TT030 and system V
Replies: 325
Views: 87459

Re: Atari TT030 and system V

Not only packages, but also kernels. Some time ago i tested it using ARAnyM, and it still worked. IIRC, at that time it was a debian wheezy system running kernel 3.16.
by ThorstenOtto
Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:27 pm
Forum: Professionals
Topic: Atari TT030 and system V
Replies: 325
Views: 87459

Re: Atari TT030 and system V

mfro wrote:I wasn't talking about running Firefox on the TT


That's hardly possible ;) Not only because of the speed, but also because a lot of the required libraries (like gtk) are missing.
by ThorstenOtto
Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: GFA BASIC
Topic: Source code of Atari ST intro "Oh No! More Dots" available
Replies: 5
Views: 954

Re: Source code of Atari ST intro "Oh No! More Dots" available

BoNuS wrote:Is there a easy way to download the whole package at once ?


Just navigate to the top level directory (https://github.com/stephane-perez/atari) and click on the clone or download link. There you can download the whole repo as zip file. Or just clone it using git, if you have installed it.
by ThorstenOtto
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: C / PASCAL etc.
Topic: gcc m68k: calling a "-mshort" API from non-mshort code
Replies: 6
Views: 739

Re: gcc m68k: calling a "-mshort" API from non-mshort code

Where can I find details about gcc structure alignment? I'm trying to access structs in gcc-compiled code (gcc 2.95) from PureC, and clearly PureC and gcc does not align structure members the same way :D I think structure alignment in gcc 4.6.4 should be the same. At least the trick mentioned above...
by ThorstenOtto
Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: C / PASCAL etc.
Topic: gcc m68k: calling a "-mshort" API from non-mshort code
Replies: 6
Views: 739

Re: gcc m68k: calling a "-mshort" API from non-mshort code

However, without "-mshort" gcc also aligns the parameters on the stack on 32-bit boundaries upon a function call. Hence parameters don't get passed correctly to the API function. It's not the alignment that matters here, but the promotion to int. That's why eg. all the gemdos/bios/xbios b...
by ThorstenOtto
Mon May 28, 2018 3:50 pm
Forum: C / PASCAL etc.
Topic: Controlling the TT sound system.
Replies: 22
Views: 1239

Re: Controlling the TT sound system.

susher wrote:Upgraded to mintlibs Pl.46 (still gcc 2.5.8 PL 1)


Is there a specific reason for using such an old compiler? Might as well be that he is just generating wrong code.
by ThorstenOtto
Sun May 27, 2018 5:27 pm
Forum: Applications
Topic: Reading HYP format
Replies: 4
Views: 610

Re: Reading HYP format

You can also check http://tho-otto.de/downloads.html. There are archives for hcp for Win32 & linux, including viewers for both. There is also a page where you can view hypertext files online, at http://tho-otto.de/hypview/index.php
by ThorstenOtto
Sat May 26, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: Hatari
Topic: Is it possible to run System V on Hatari?
Replies: 16
Views: 3761

Re: Is it possible to run System V on Hatari?

Hmm, I was going to start my process of running System V on my TT030, but it sounds like I can't test things via Hatari. Does Hatari even support TT High? Apparently it does not with EmuTOS. Sounds like there are some hacks to be done. What about netbsd or minix? TT works, its only some other hardw...
by ThorstenOtto
Thu May 24, 2018 8:19 am
Forum: Hardware
Topic: Sparrow inspection
Replies: 37
Views: 3463

Re: Sparrow inspection

Unlike tos 4.04 it is only a single-language version. Do you know by any chance whether any versions for other languages existed? So even SysInfo is quite confused. I think that is only due to a wrong setting of the _MCH cookie (maybe the value for a Sparrow/Falcon wasn't even defined at that time)
by ThorstenOtto
Tue May 22, 2018 6:47 am
Forum: GFA BASIC
Topic: data from fnt file and merge into system font file
Replies: 1
Views: 416

Re: data from fnt file and merge into system font file

You can take a look at http://tho-otto.de/download/gemfedit-1.0.2-src.zip. Its a simple Font editor & viewer, with binaries & sources.

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